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Is Hilary the Lesser Evil in 2016?

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posted on Feb, 20 2016 @ 03:40 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

I was very much into and following politics during the Bush "W" years.

My hubby and I owned a small business. I pretty much sat at a computer 10 hours a day, not doing much else except phones, customers, some office type work - - and hanging out in political forums.

I learned a lot. I started out as a Bush "W" supporter. At the end I was in opposition. Off hand, I can't think of anything I support during those years.

Now I am raising my 8 year old grandson who is high functioning autistic. I like to stay informed, but can't keep up like I used to.

I have my views, as does everyone else. I don't really have the option of time to research.

"Talky Annee"




posted on Feb, 20 2016 @ 03:40 PM
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a reply to: EverydayInVA

Ahh, yes. Everything we need to know about a person can be obtained by watching 25 years of TV propaganda.

Spare me the nonsense, Miss Cleo.



posted on Feb, 20 2016 @ 03:45 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

Depends on what you mean by genuine IMO.

Hillary has always been politics. Its been her all consuming focus. In that way she is genuine.


I agree there... I think she would do/say whatever it takes to complete her legacy. To be quite honest, if she was good I would not have an issue with her, but she has not done well in anything she has been a part of in the past or present, so I think that type of record would just transfer to the top job too. Knowing her true dislike for the military, I know many that are preying "God, please not her" over and over since they will need to work around her then...lol



posted on Feb, 20 2016 @ 03:49 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

I have my views, as does everyone else. I don't really have the option of time to research.

"Talky Annee"


To be honest I don't think I'm voting at all... I'm at a point it really doesn't matter to me other than I know so many will feel the pain, but then they are voted in and so the pain is somewhat self induced.



posted on Feb, 20 2016 @ 03:49 PM
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posted on Feb, 20 2016 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

I can't honestly take a military man's opinion of how someone else supports or thinks of the military. You're bias.

I personally am not a pacifist in the overall struggles of this world. Power, corruption, money - - - takes control of many, probably most, in that high level inner circle.

Ours are as bad as their's in the struggle for World Power.

I would opt for a peaceful, pacifistic, socialism style world - - - it it existed. It doesn't. If that's ever possible, it's decades (or more) into the future.


edit on 20-2-2016 by Annee because: There, They're, Their




posted on Feb, 20 2016 @ 04:00 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee

I have my views, as does everyone else. I don't really have the option of time to research.

"Talky Annee"


To be honest I don't think I'm voting at all... I'm at a point it really doesn't matter to me other than I know so many will feel the pain, but then they are voted in and so the pain is somewhat self induced.


I have to officially change state of residence.

Timing might get in the way of me voting.

Subconsciously, I might be planning it that way LOL



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 07:46 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
If Hillary Clinton represented Jurassic Park, the dinosaurs would choose extinction again.

If Hillary Clinton was a free all-you-can-eat buffet, Michael Moore would go on a starvation diet.

If Hillary Clinton was a scented candle, her aroma would be "Burnt Underwear".


You're trivializing your own argument. Your "Evil" equates to crappy metaphors.

Well done.



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 07:49 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

You have to admit, she probably does smell like burnt underwear.



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 07:54 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Gryphon66

You have to admit, she probably does smell like burnt underwear.



... no more than I would have to admit that Satan is little more than a badly-drawn cartoon character ...



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 07:57 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
... no more than I would have to admit that Satan is little more than a badly-drawn cartoon character ...


Hillary is not a badly drawn cartoon character.



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 08:32 AM
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a reply to: greencmp


For one thing, I have never heard him say that he wants to create new laws based on religion.


He wants to DESTROY EXISTING laws; he has plenty of plans to remove gay marriage, outlaw abortion, and support the Kim Davis's of the world.
Dude, he is a Dominionist. His father is a Dominionist - who raised Ted to be "the Annointed One." He wants to put prayer back in school, allow corporations to deny freedoms to their employees (big supporter of Hobby Lobby - 'member that?)

Ted Cruz’s Father Preaches That His Son Is An “Anointed King” Who Will Bring The “End Time Transfer Of Wealth”


in a very real, mundane sense Ted Cruz has already helped deliver hundreds of millions of dollars, or more, to the evangelical right. Cruz’ past service – as a “king” who brought “spoils to the priests” – is a matter of established record;

...a top adviser to President George W. Bush has stated that in 1999 Ted Cruz played a major role in helping the Bush for President campaign lock down the conservative evangelical vote in the 2000 election.

...
But Ted Cruz’ apparently notable role in getting George W. Bush into the presidency led in turn to Bush’s “Faith Based Initiative” – that continues to this day under two successive Obama administrations and which, during the Bush years, funneled billions of dollars to churches and institutions associated with the religious right.

In other words, the “great transfer of wealth” is about more than wishful thinking. It’s about an ongoing effort, by leaders and institutions of the evangelical right, to gradually gobble up the secular sphere of government.


See?


n a sermon[2] last year at an Irving, Texas, megachurch that helped elect Ted Cruz to the United States Senate,

Cruz’ father Rafael Cruz indicated that his son was among the "kings" [who will take religious control]


These people are very serious about making this a Christian Theocracy. Please check the link for embedded links to more info regarding the Seven Mountain Dominionists. And in case you missed it above, here, read it again:


to take control of all sectors of society, an agenda commonly referred to as the “Seven Mountains” mandate, and “bring the spoils of war to the priests”, thus helping to bring about a prophesied “great transfer of wealth”, from the “wicked” to righteous gentile believers.

The Seven Mountains are:

Government
Business
Education
Media
Arts & Entertainment
Family
and RELIGION

Those are the things these Evangelicals intend to TAKE OVER. Decades now, they've been infiltrating government at all levels....from ridiculous Kim Davis to the asinine Governor of Kansas - all Evangelical control freaks.


Please, please, stop looking away from it. This has been pointed out so many times on ATS that it's not only redundant, but appalling that so few of you members realize it.
edit on 2/21/2016 by BuzzyWigs because: woops left out Media. Yeah, they want to control MEDIA as well.



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 08:38 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Gryphon66
... no more than I would have to admit that Satan is little more than a badly-drawn cartoon character ...


Hillary is not a badly drawn cartoon character.


She is also not any of the other silly metaphors used to describe her.



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 08:46 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
She is also not any of the other silly metaphors used to describe her.


No, but she is a vile, establishment panderer who makes me want to choke on my own vomit.



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 08:51 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Gryphon66
She is also not any of the other silly metaphors used to describe her.


No, but she is a vile, establishment panderer who makes me want to choke on my own vomit.


Perhaps you shouldn't vote for her then ... LOL ... but all due respect, even your (usually quite apt) opinions are not always fact.

The "Hillary Clinton" that the right-wing media circus has created over the last 30 years is not real.

Neither is the focus of unending childish insults that say more about the source than the object.

IMO.



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 08:56 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Perhaps you shouldn't vote for her then ... LOL ... but all due respect, even your (usually quite apt) opinions are not always fact.


No, I will most likely not be voting for her. I think in another thread I offered that my vote would be going to Thomas Jefferson in the hopes that he comes back as a zombie.


The "Hillary Clinton" that the right-wing media circus has created over the last 30 years is not real.


This distaste for Clinton amongst all voters is not due to her and Bill's laying the blame on some 'vast Right Wing conspiracy' as they tried to do in the 1990's but by their own abhorrent behavior. Just ask any Sanders supporter why they do not love the Hilldog and it will not be because she smells like burnt underwear.



edit on 21-2-2016 by AugustusMasonicus because: never go in against a Sicilian with death is on the line



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 09:01 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Apparently not "all voters" feel that way about Clinton, and further, I doubt that all Sanders' supporters will say the same thing about anything (except perhaps that they like Bernie).

Are you projecting your personal distaste for the woman on everyone else, perhaps?
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posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 09:07 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Apparently not "all voters" feel that way about Clinton, and further, I doubt that all Sanders' supporters will say the same thing about anything (except perhaps that they like Bernie).


When I used all it was in place of typing Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, et al, who do not like her, I should have been clearer.


Are you projecting your personal distaste for the woman on everyone else, perhaps?


No, certainly not, but I have plenty of friends on either side of the spectrum who do not like her which is supported by her favorable/unfavorable number being below 50%.



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 09:16 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I'm really not nit-picking your word choice ... let me state my position outright: many Americans support Hillary Clinton.

Many more will support her if she becomes the Democratic nominee, if only to "vote against" Donald Trump. (Seems pretty clear at this moment).

While we're discussing opinions, polls showing a matchup between Clinton and Trump have consistently shown a Clinton majority.

E.g. Real Clear Politics - Clinton v. Trump



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
I'm really not nit-picking your word choice ... let me state my position outright: many Americans support Hillary Clinton.


No disagreement.


While we're discussing opinions, polls showing a matchup between Clinton and Trump have consistently shown a Clinton majority.


And other polls indicate her getting trounced by Rubio so I guess it all comes down to which candidate the party bosses want to install.




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