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originally posted by: Helicopter
If you have the vagine, use the women's toilettes.
If you have the kuraц, use the men's toilettes.
I have never ever met a transgender person, so I have no damn idea, but this one time in Kazakhstan, my friend was in the women's banya, and there was this women there, she didn't have the kuraц but she had a beard... nobody cared. But if she had the kuraц, she, or he whatever, would have been tossed away outside, like that.
I mean, if you have a male body I don't think it matters if you have a female brain, you should use the men's, because you must think of the women, who will not like a kuraц in their toilette. Because of course, there is some men who might use a pervy advantage here. Precautions are sometimes needed.
And seperate trans toilettes... well this is nice idea, but is also of great cost for not many trans people. Damn, this is a difficult problem!
originally posted by: seaswine
This is dangerous if the law is that lenient. True, honest to goodness trans people that feel the need to change in X or Y area... Fine by me to be honest.
But if the law's leniency can be abused by say, teenage boys who wanna see some female anatomy and not be punished, legislators need to figure something out so a loophole cannot be taken advantage of.
originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Why can't there be unisex, and male and female facilities?
The retailers’ moves come in response to a campaign by the advocacy group, the National Center on Sexual Exploitation, to get stores to wrap Cosmo magazines in sleeves or covers, in the way pornographic magazines are covered.
originally posted by: Seiko
I feel society could really benefit by moving away from our concepts of gender. If we stop caring about what gender a person is or which room they use this argument can become invalid. If you stop acting like seeing someone naked is traumatizing and somehow detrimental we might actually move past the need to worry about these things.
I know the story is about a locker room, but it is a public one. If you're uncomfortable with people undressing near you please do not use public facilities. I used a co-gendered bathroom in an Oregon coffee house years ago and I survived it.
When you truly stop judging people on gender or sex or other classifications things like this just don't matter anymore. I realize the law in Washington isn't actually accomplishing this though.
One day after Christmas, Washington state quietly adopted a set of new policies regarding transgender individuals using sex-specific facilities. The rules, adopted by the state Human Rights Commission, make it illegal for business owners to limit sex-specific facilities such as bathrooms, showers, and locker rooms to persons with the anatomical parts of one sex.
“To my knowledge, this is the first time in the country that there’s been a statewide effort to mandate all public accommodations cooperate with the gender identity concept that somebody declares,” Joseph Backholm, executive director of the Family Policy Institute of Washington, told The Daily Signal.
“This is the next step in this war on gender.”
The rules, which a state legislator told The Daily Signal took effect on Dec. 26, apply to businesses with eight or more employees. They also dictate that schools should “allow students to use the restroom that is consistent with their gender identity” and in most cases, give transgender students “access to the locker room that corresponds to their gender identity.”
originally posted by: StoutBroux
Basically, use whatever facility you feel like using...Basically, take the signs off the doors. Which ever has the shortest line, walk in and take care of business.
The true irony here is that conservatives are fulfilling their own prophecy. I've been reading quite a few comments and Tweets from conservatives, goading each other (men) into going into the women's restrooms to prove a point.