originally posted by: Atsbhct
a reply to: neutrinostargate
You're the only troll in your own thread. Why wouldn't you just show your "proof" in your OP?
Here is this for now. More to come.
The Gregorian calendar or Gregorian solar year of 365.2425 days/year doesn’t even accurately match a precessional cycle too! The 5128 years of the
true Mayan Haab Solar Year of 365 days using 1,872,000 days for the 13 baktuns, (144,0000 days each), perfectly matches the correct processional cycle
of 1 degree change every 71.233 years. This is computed by taking 5200 years - 5128.767 = 71.333 years per 1 degree.
This was stated about the degrees and precessional accuracy:
"There are 360 degrees in the Zodiac circle. It takes ~72 years of new spring dawns to move the constellation but 1 degree. For reference, the moon
takes up ½ of a degree. The span of the Zodiac signs average 30º. It would take ~2,160 years to travel through one Zodiac sign (72 yr x 30º). Over
one lifetime this movement would not be noticed. It would take a number of lifetimes to notice this and then have accurate enough records to forecast
the future movements. A longer explanation is on my web site at At 72 years per degree, it would take 25,920 years to complete the entire cycle and
In western science the discovery of Precession is credited to Hipparchus around 120 BC. He was an excellent astronomer but likely used older data from
the Babylonians and perhaps other sources from the library at Alexandria. How accurate was he? Modern science puts the most accurate number to transit
the 1 degree not at 72 years but at 71.63 years. Hipparchus figures estimated it at 78.26 years. Close. Ptolemy then used Hipparchus information and
300 years later estimated it to be at ~100 years. Not getting better. The Mayans at about 50 BC, or so, developed their calendar and
with its accuracy estimated it at 71.2 years. How did they get it so accurate? Did they have past help and information? If we assume modern estimates
are 100% accurate, then the Mayans were 99.4% accurate, Hipparchus was 91.5% accurate and Ptolemy was 71.6% accurate. So it is shown the Mayans were
more accurate and earlier than the west . . . or they had help."
The 5128 years of the true Mayan Haab Solar Year of 365 days using 1,872,000 days for the 13 baktuns, (144,0000 days each), perfectly matches the
correct processional cycle of 1 degree change every 71.233 years. Again, this is computed by taking 5200 years - 5128.767 = 71.333 years.
And this is how the Mayans figured out precession. They used a 13 baktun cycle of 144,000 days each (or 1,872,000 days total) with a solar year of 365
days. This equates to 5128.767 years. There is 26,000 years in a grand precessional cycle. 26,000 years would be a circle just like 360 degrees. 5200
years x 5 = 26,000 years. What the Mayans did was they took 5200 years subtracted it by 5128.767 years and got to 71.233 years per 1 degree. 360
degrees x 71.233 years per 1 degree = 25,644 years for a full precessional cycle.
Lets say it was the Gregorian year to figure out precession. 1,872,000 days/365.2425 solar year days = 5125.361 years
5200 years minus 5125.361 years = 74.636 years per 1 degree = 74.636 years x 360 degrees = 26,870 years which is not even remotely close to the
proposed years for precession
which is generally around 25,600 years many people consider. And 74.63 years per 1 degree isn’t even close to the
generally accepted estimate of 72 year per degree for precession!
So we can see, the Gregorian calendar is clearly wrong when dealing with time.
Again, why would Mayan researchers use a faulty Gregorian calendar of 365.2425 solar day per year and not use the Mayan Haab 365 solar days per year?
It is taking a faulty Western calendar solar year calculation derived by the Pope back in 1582 and using it with the Mayan calendar cycles. To me, why
Mayan researchers didn’t use 365 days to arrive at the correct date of the Mayan Long Count is extremely perplexing to say the least.
Also, 71.233 years per 1 degree x 73
= 5200. Or a pressional cycle of 26,00 - 25,644 years = 356 year difference.
Take 26,000/71.2333 26,000 years! It is perfect!
As mentioned above, 71.233 years per 1 degree x 73 = 5200. But why the number 73?
The number 73 was very important to the
“Mayan-Aztec Calendar cycles: The Sheaf & the Century
As one can see then from the above, the key time cycle of interest, the Earth-Venus Synodic interval, is equal to about 583.92021140 days. That the
Mayan people and also the Aztecs were interested in accurately tracking the successive passage of such conjunctions is beyond doubt. Their method, as
will be examined, is indeed somewhat ingenious.
Right up until the arrival of the Spanish in the New world in the late 15th century, there was a time cycle actively tracked by the Indian people of
Central America, from very ancient times. Indeed, the time cycle in question is so old that the exact moment of its inception as an astronomical
cycle, to be first recorded by the people of this region, is unknown. The actual name given to it is the Sheaf.
The Sheaf, as a time interval, is generated by carefully combining a calendar year of 365 days, with the Tzolkin ‘forward advance of Venus
measure’ of 260 days. When each of these measures are evaluated, it is so determined that the lowest common multiple (LCM) associated with them i.e.
the lowest number that they will each divide into without a remainder, is 18980 days. Thus, after exactly 1 Sheaf of 18980 days, both time intervals
would re-synchronise, just as for example, a LCM planetary conjunction cycle would. This fact is evident in the following relations:
365 / 260 = 73 / 52
The fraction so generated here of 73 / 52 is the smallest fraction that the Year & Tzolkin can be reduced to. It is also the case that they are the
numbers via which one reveals the LCM between the two cycles:
365 x 52 = 18980 days
260 x 73
= 18980 days
As one can see then, after exactly 52 calendar years, 73 completed periods of the forward advance of Venus will have occurred, which will be the
starting point for a new (Sheaf) round.”