The Mayan Calendar Ends On June 2nd, 2016 (Gregorian) or May 20th, 2016 (Julian)

originally posted by: neutrinostargate
There is no doubt in my mind with my research that the Mayan Long Count calendar ends in about 3 months from now. June 2nd, 2016 (Gregorian) or May 20th, 2016 (Julian).

My calendar finishes on the 31/12/16.

So what? What happened to it finishing in 2012?

a reply to: neutrinostargate

And that way of thinking is why few people will listen to you. Again have a nice day.

Daavin

I man'd up and apologize for that insult at the beginning. Why don't you man up and say sorry to say that was your web site and I was peddling a book, obviously confusing others reading and thinking that it was. Have a nice day .

a reply to: neutrinostargate

Yes the calendar is wrong and guess what. NOTHING will happen. It's the end of an era, moving from Aquariud to Pisces, which we have already done. So what is your point? The Mayans never said the world would end, Hollywood did.

a reply to: neutrinostargate

You stated in the very first post and I quote "my research", naturally then the word for word posting on copyrighted material must be your own

originally posted by: Daavin
a reply to: neutrinostargate

You stated in the very first post and I quote "my research", naturally then the word for word posting on copyrighted material must be your own

Perhaps you should read a little more closely and naturally understand what quotes around text means? And maybe perhaps understand after quotes around someones research you provide a link to the source? I mean, you do understand this right?

a reply to: neutrinostargate

I will apologize for the misinterpretation that the site is yours.

Ok now after this little sortie we just had I have a couple questions for you.
How do you feel right now about me? secondly
Would you listen to anything I have to say now?

By creating confrontation, I am positive you will not be receptive to anything I have to say in the future. Just like when you attack others with insults and berate them for perceived injustices no matter how much material you show them they won't listen.

what I am saying is you get more flies with honey than you do vinegar.

I hope you are getting what I'm putting out here, just a little friendly advice and the last few posts were an example on how people can perceive negativity.

Peace

Daavin

originally posted by: Daavin
a reply to: neutrinostargate

I will apologize for the misinterpretation that the site is yours.

Ok now after this little sortie we just had I have a couple questions for you.
How do you feel right now about me? secondly
Would you listen to anything I have to say now?

By creating confrontation, I am positive you will not be receptive to anything I have to say in the future. Just like when you attack others with insults and berate them for perceived injustices no matter how much material you show them they won't listen.

what I am saying is you get more flies with honey than you do vinegar.

I hope you are getting what I'm putting out here, just a little friendly advice and the last few posts were an example on how people can perceive negativity.

Peace

Daavin

Why thanks!

Sure, I would listen, but first things first, you have to read what I have freely posted and try to understand it if you want to or want to take on the challenge. If you have questions about it, ask away. If you want to try to debunk my theory, then try it and post it.

I started this thread NOT posting my research right away, but instead getting making it a little fun and different. Of course, that will bring out the 2012 trolls. And the insult was to get your attention. If you get all butt hurt from it and don't want to read anymore, then that is fine.

But I think just posting my research at the beginning if I did so, would just make the thread a little boring. I wanted people to accept the challenge to actually read it and understand it, not 2012 or Mayan trolling comments. LOL

originally posted by: mblahnikluver
a reply to: neutrinostargate

Yes the calendar is wrong and guess what. NOTHING will happen. It's the end of an era, moving from Aquariud to Pisces, which we have already done. So what is your point? The Mayans never said the world would end, Hollywood did.

So you agree with me then the 12/21/12 date is wrong?

Sure, yeah, the Mayans I guess never said the world would end, but the Aztecs who followed the Mayans and had a lot of their traditions, calendar, and customs believed the "end of the world" would happen at some point, specifically at the end of a 52 year calendar round cycle.

Guys, guys. Don't get all worked up about the world ending, it will NOT end I assure you.

Only we will all die

I mean, let's face it: we have failed as a race, even at ATS where there's supposed to be more well informed people we waste our time and energy in these endless pissing contests... Come on, you know we deserve to be extinct, the sooner the better.

Have a nice apocalypse everyone!

a reply to: neutrinostargate

ok but you got more negative attention than positive going that route, I have now read the thread from beginning to now, being no expert on the subject your findings have brought about some curiosity on the subject of calendars.
Most of the western world uses the Gregorian calendar so according to it today is feb 20, 2016. now if we are say in China and we use the lunar calendar then today is the 14th day of the Tiger in the year 4714 the year of the monkey. If let's say I was shipwrecked years ago with no contact with the outside world my calendar may say today is the 786th day of isolation .

So therefore we can agree the passage of time is perceived differently based upon outside influences, including slight variations of where the stars are in the sky at a specific time of day at different locations on the planet.

It may not be that they are not, as you say wrong, only that they are different methods with variables that are correct only within a certain radius on the planet. now given the that the location with globalization has moved perhaps that method as you say is not the best or most accurate.

I won't go into the whole prophesy BS as in my opinion that's all it ever was

a reply to: Daavin

I don't know about positive attention if I went that route. I probably would have gotten no attention.

Forget about the Chinese calendar and the year of the money into this equation. lol

What we are discussing here is the Gregorian calendar and how it is wrong and that means the date of 12/21/21 is wrong.

I will further explain it more in a little bit.

originally posted by: Deny777
Guys, guys. Don't get all worked up about the world ending, it will NOT end I assure you.

Only we will all die

I mean, let's face it: we have failed as a race, even at ATS where there's supposed to be more well informed people we waste our time and energy in these endless pissing contests... Come on, you know we deserve to be extinct, the sooner the better.

Have a nice apocalypse everyone!

The world ending could be what happened a 1/2 of a precession ago or 13,000 years ago. If that happened now, it essentially would be the end of the world as we know it and rebirth and renewal begins.

a reply to: neutrinostargate
So what your saying is that we will be getting a new doomporn date, as people were all incorrect in there previous doominess with the whole 2012 end of the world thing a few years back? WOW! That's so cool. So many people got it wrong.

Not that I bother much these days, but it would be an upgrade and break from the whole political doomtardness going on lately. I for one will look forward to the end of the world come Jan 2 2016, to tell the truth don't know if the whole end of the world will be a bad thing, in fact it just may be an improvement. We shall see I suppose.

originally posted by: neutrinostargate
The world ending could be what happened a 1/2 of a precession ago or 13,000 years ago. If that happened now, it essentially would be the end of the world as we know it and rebirth and renewal begins.

You mean the end of the Atlantean civilization, which BTW I do believe actually happened, also the Mayans in my opinion were descendants of atlantean survivors, hence their advanced knowledge of astronomy, science, etc.
The world didn't end then, so it's silly to suppose it will now, though the cataclisms that ensued by that time were enough to wipe most of the human race from the surface of the planet.

I belive such cataclisms were caused by the proximity of a large planet or brown dwarf that has a very long eliptical orbit and every few millenia passes nearby Earth - I mean, even CalTech admitted there must be at least one large planet lurking in the outskirts of the Solar System because of gravitational anomalies observed in one of our asteroid belts.

Now, keeping track of such a planetary body seems like an interesting motivation and reference for a calendar to me, just sayin'. I guess we'll all see soon enough, hope I get good seats to watch the show.

originally posted by: Daavin
a reply to: neutrinostargate

And that way of thinking is why few people will listen to you. Again have a nice day.

Daavin

You are mistaken, less of us fall for that moronic argument everyday.

He was right to insult you, you were just another tired LOUD complainer.

a reply to: Deny777

No, we are allowed to think the Earth can die, everything is organic and can be killed.

The Earth most certainly WILL die, if we do also.

originally posted by: ParasuvO
a reply to: Deny777

No, we are allowed to think the Earth can die, everything is organic and can be killed.

The Earth most certainly WILL die, if we do also.

Humans are not that important in the overall history of life on Earth. If the history of life on Earth were made into a 24-hour day, our species only came around at a few seconds to midnight. The other 99+% of the history of life on Earth (over 4 billion years worth of life) did fine before humans arrived, and will most likely doing fine once humans become extinct (an extinction that will most likely happen long before the extinction of the rest of life on Earth).

I mean, if we look at other life on earth, no species lasts forever. More than 99% of all species that have ever lived have gone extinct, and so will we, eventually. Why would humans be different?

a reply to: neutrinostargate

The Mayan calendar was over in 2012, the History channel did a very long documentary on the history and expectancies of the calendar ending, as we can see nothing happen.

originally posted by: Deny777

originally posted by: neutrinostargate
The world ending could be what happened a 1/2 of a precession ago or 13,000 years ago. If that happened now, it essentially would be the end of the world as we know it and rebirth and renewal begins.

You mean the end of the Atlantean civilization, which BTW I do believe actually happened, also the Mayans in my opinion were descendants of atlantean survivors, hence their advanced knowledge of astronomy, science, etc.

completely ignoring the fact that there is zero evidence for an Atlantean Civilization, how does one conclude that this civilization, devoid of evidence, ended precisely 13 KA? And IF this really occurred, why then did it take the Maya an additional 11 KA to become its own civilization, let alone another millennium to achieve the level of sophistication we see in todays Mayan sites? If they were that superior in regards to science, astronomy etc... there should be some sort of physical evidence between 13 KA BP and the appearance of the Mayan Civilization. There should be a gradual succession of ever improving technology, science and mathematics. And they certainly should have known that their massive deforestation projects would have long term ecological effects. yet we don't see a sudden appearance of a technologically advanced civ appearing in the Yucatan after the alleged catastrophe that destroyed Atlantis. We see that Maya appear ~ 3800 BP and not 13000 BP

The world didn't end then, so it's silly to suppose it will now, though the cataclisms that ensued by that time were enough to wipe most of the human race from the surface of the planet.

What evidence do you have tosupport your contention that nearly all of humanity was wiped out 13 KA?

I belive such cataclisms were caused by the proximity of a large planet or brown dwarf that has a very long eliptical orbit and every few millenia passes nearby Earth - I mean, even CalTech admitted there must be at least one large planet lurking in the outskirts of the Solar System because of gravitational anomalies observed in one of our asteroid belts.

Yes, there is likely an object in the Kuiper Belt with a mass of ~ 20 Earths. No it's not on an elliptical orbit and no, it doesn't swing into the inner solar system every X thousand's of years. If that were the case, the entire solar system would be in disarray. It's not a terribly feasible hypothesis. In fact, it's nearly as unlikely as the Atlanteans being the Maya yet hiding in the forests for over 10,000 years before making themselves known.

Now, keeping track of such a planetary body seems like an interesting motivation and reference for a calendar to me, just sayin'. I guess we'll all see soon enough, hope I get good seats to watch the show.

Sure... that's much more likely scenario than charting the seasons and when to plant or harvest crops, something that they needed to do on a regular basis. No... they just observed the sky with one purpose...Planet X!!!