The One Weird Trait That Predicts Whether You’re a Trump Supporter

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
I don't know. It makes for a nice public works project to stimulate the economy by reducing unemployment, and it's a pretty cool tourist attraction.

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I'm kind of torn by all of this. I have a fence around my yard to keep my dogs in and intruders out, but I don't want to vote for Trump. Politics can be so confusing.

It would be all show and no go. Imagine the PR fiasco the first time someone manages to get around, through, under or over the Great Wall of Trump?

Well, you're never going to be able to stop everyone.

But just imagine:

A 40' tall concrete wall with a six lane interstate on top. Maybe even a monorail. Off ramps to small towns for gas stops and motels. Maybe even a casino or two. Some tourist shops selling Native American goods and Wall souvenirs.

Solar panels and wind turbines along the length of it. Energy could be supplied to the towns and the monorail.

Inside the wall, irrigation piping from the Rio Grand to some of the more arid portions of the southwest. Maybe even an oil pipeline going from the Gulf to refineries along the Wall.

Think of the employment boost as workers flock to the southwest to build the Wall.

All it needs is a catchy name. How about The Obama Memorial Highway?

a reply to: neo96

Who cares? The point is the ineffectiveness of walls and if you cannot even keep nutbars out of the White House how in any honest stretch of the imagination is a 1,400 mile long wall going to do anything except be a show pony?

a reply to: xuenchen

Hey now who doesn't like socialism?

It's awesome !

The individual doesn't get to own anything. The State does.

And I get to work to feed,cloth,educate, and give the mob Every single thing they want. For the rest of my life.

The mob never satisfied keeps adding, and I have to keep working, and working. Without the possibility of ever owning anything myself.

Socialism ROCKS!

a reply to: VictorVonDoom

Except that area is barren and inhospitable with very little to see or do for the largest portion of it.

You are not even going to get a cyclone fence, let alone a six lane monstrosity with tourist amenities.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Consider the early Christian churches.

Tangent warning.

We are on a topic about Trump and Authoritarianism, not early Christian Churches.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: greencmp

That's a nice post, but it means very little.

The primary engine of society is the people. The market is secondary to people and the market's health is dependent upon the people's ability to engage in it.

Planners, what plan have you for each "able" participant prior to their allowance into the market?

What association, allegiance, certification or pretense shall be required for admittance?

"Society are people."

-Frank Chodorov

originally posted by: TheBandit795
a reply to: Gryphon66

Yeah, in Socialism the government owns all major industries and production. You can't get more authoritarian than that.

www.merriam-webster.com...

From your link:

1
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2
a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3
: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

Notice that in meaning 1 socialism also refers to collective ownership not just governmental.

Also, you're "arguing from the dictionary" ... while I like Merriam-Webster, that does not contain all knowledge and meaning.

For example:

Socialism at dictionary.com

1.
a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2.
procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3.
(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.

Nope, no government there, only "the community as a whole."

One word for Trump supporter. Kindergarten. That's where when you have a disagreement with someone you insult them instead of using a logical argument to support your ideas. LOL

originally posted by: DBCowboy

The author of the study said "authoritarian": in an attempt to smear.

But change authoritarian to assertive or aggressive, and you end up with good qualities required in a leader.

Bingo.

Lots of side-door articles being written to fool people into a "Sanders" corral.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Which means you are not free to own individually.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: neo96

And no one ever hopped over that thing, huh?

"It's not perfect so lets don't do it."

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Consider the early Christian churches.

Tangent warning.

We are on a topic about Trump and Authoritarianism, not early Christian Churches.

LOL ... that's a good one.

You were tangentially discussing socialism in relation to the topic, and you are inaccurately describing socialism as purely authoritarian.

I responded to you with a concrete example of my statement which counters your contention.

originally posted by: amazing
One word for Trump supporter. Kindergarten. That's where when you have a disagreement with someone you insult them instead of using a logical argument to support your ideas. LOL

"I'm rubber, you're glue, what you say bounces of me and sticks to you!" ....'ya big dummy!

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: jjkenobi
Authoritarian. Pretty vague. Hard to describe yourself or someone you know that way.

But if Authoritarian means following a strong leader, Democrats are the exact opposite. Obama, Hillary, Sanders, B. Clinton, Carter...they all easily fit into the category of NOT a strong leader. More of a tell each different group what they want to hear and hope they don't offend anyone "leader".

So I guess in a way it makes sense.

That's what I was thinking.

The author of the study said "authoritarian": in an attempt to smear.

But change authoritarian to assertive or aggressive, and you end up with good qualities required in a leader.

Aggressive and assertive are not about control. You can be aggressive and assertive without being controlling.

Authoritarian is about control.

a reply to: TrueBrit

It's one small poll (funny how THIS poll should be believed but everyone wants to throw out a million other polls because the results don't sit right with them). It's a hit piece, really, and at the very least it's biased. It doesn't mean anything has changed.

originally posted by: TheBandit795
a reply to: Gryphon66

Which means you are not free to own individually.

Perhaps and perhaps not. We were arguing dictionary definitions, not reality.

And socialism is not the topic.

originally posted by: BIGPoJo
"It's not perfect so lets don't do it."

More like totally useless and resources could be best allocated elsewhere.

originally posted by: BIGPoJo

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: neo96

And no one ever hopped over that thing, huh?

"It's not perfect so lets don't do it."

Let's let people do it themselves with competitive markets unhampered by tiresome interventionist baggage.

a reply to: BIGPoJo

If the LEFT wingers hated walls so much why don't they tell the president to 'tear down that wall'.

TIme for some more IRONY.

The White House has a wall for the SAME REASONS people want a WALL on the southern border.

To keep the baddies out of his home.

But apparently we are not worthy.

The presidents life is simply 'more' important than ours.

a reply to: neo96

And with Anarchy there is no personal property either. Personal property entraps and enslaves people. People are owned by their property.