The One Weird Trait That Predicts Whether You’re a Trump Supporter

a reply to: introvert

Yes Introvert.

I am being 'absurd'.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Yeah, in Socialism the government owns all major industries and production. You can't get more authoritarian than that.

www.merriam-webster.com...

originally posted by: schuyler
So basically we have one guy who JUST HAPPENS to be writing his dissertation on authoritarianism deciding Trump supporters are authoritarian. Do you think maybe he has his authoritarian glasses on, or is Politico simply being insulting?

I am NOT a Trump supporter.

Is it also possible the polling data does show the trend he claims?

a reply to: neo96

And no one ever hopped over that thing, huh?

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

That whole thing is based on tainted and controlled questions.

Not reality.

a reply to: introvert

Yes, the liberalism/authoritarian dichotomy is appropriate as long as you use its original meaning, that of classical liberalism.

The reason that is important is because the primary engine of society is the market and the market exceeds and transcends national borders. It is this faith in markets (and the people who constitute them) that has been misconstrued as religious faith or faith in government.

Forbidding commercial exchange, tariffs, trade wars and like are all anti-liberal policies aimed at achieving functional national autarky, an unachievable state of being for any amorphous conglomerate of actors such as the world market.

Insisting upon accepted authoritarian modes of cultural tolerance and their corresponding right wing counterparts are evidence of the unified statist interventionist world view amongst nearly all politicians.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Socialism is primarily an economic system except in certain constitutional exceptions.

Support of authoritarianism is the definition of right-wing politics.

And those Socialist economic policies require massive authoritarian methods to make it function.

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: Annee

No offense, Annee, but based on your several thousand posts, you have been any and everything over the years, and have changed like a chameleon. Can't wait to see what you become as you enter your golden years!

I say this affectionately...really I do.

I am a Globalist. I see the world as a whole. Everyone should watch Carl Sagan's "Pale Blue Dot", before leaving their home in the morning (or whatever time schedule you are on).

But, this is NOT about my political beliefs.

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For discussion purposes - - it's called Fit the Subject.

I call it "Elevator Thinking" - - - each floor has a perspective. Pick a "floor" (perspective) to debate from.

My avatar stands for Perspective - - - "am I looking in or am I looking out". Also, "Standing on the Moon" - - is about perspective. You can see the earth as a whole Standing on the Moon.

Many real life experiences to draw from. I am already in my Golden Years.

originally posted by: TheBandit795
a reply to: Gryphon66

Yeah, in Socialism the government owns all major industries and production. You can't get more authoritarian than that.

www.merriam-webster.com...

All due respect, sir-maam, but you need to read the definition very closely.

any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of good

Socialism is not limited to government ownership or one specific type of system.

a reply to: ColeYounger

I firmly believe that the one trait common to the vast majority of Trump supporters is an utter disgust with the politics as usual scene.

That and they probably don't appreciate being called "the lowest common denominators," either.

originally posted by: introvert

Socialism is not limited to government ownership or one specific type of system.

.... Until it becomes full authoritarian.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Socialism is primarily an economic system except in certain constitutional exceptions.

Support of authoritarianism is the definition of right-wing politics.

And those Socialist economic policies require massive authoritarian methods to make it function.

Not at all.

Consider the early Christian churches.

Authoritarian. Pretty vague. Hard to describe yourself or someone you know that way.

But if Authoritarian means following a strong leader, Democrats are the exact opposite. Obama, Hillary, Sanders, B. Clinton, Carter...they all easily fit into the category of NOT a strong leader. More of a tell each different group what they want to hear and hope they don't offend anyone "leader".

So I guess in a way it makes sense.

a reply to: introvert

Which means you are not free to own individually.

And below that.

a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

a reply to: greencmp

That's a nice post, but it means very little.

The primary engine of society is the people. The market is secondary to people and the market's health is dependent upon the people's ability to engage in it.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Trump, as a CEO, is highly authoritarian. Of course, he favors strict obedience, as long as HE'S the authority.

Excuse me, isn't that the objective? I'm quite sure that's why we elect a person - to be "the" authority.
Personally, I'm beginning to feel the Bern.

a reply to: xuenchen

Here's another one.

www.gotoquiz.com...

a reply to: TheBandit795

Which means you are not free to own individually.

Why can't you? I was highlighting the idea that there are many definitions of socialism and to say that it must be state-controlled or stifle individual rights in incorrect.

I'm not advocating for an such thing and I doubt there are many that do.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: neo96

And no one ever hopped over that thing, huh?

Difference there is those that do run for the other side are NOT caught, and released.

originally posted by: jjkenobi
Authoritarian. Pretty vague. Hard to describe yourself or someone you know that way.

But if Authoritarian means following a strong leader, Democrats are the exact opposite. Obama, Hillary, Sanders, B. Clinton, Carter...they all easily fit into the category of NOT a strong leader. More of a tell each different group what they want to hear and hope they don't offend anyone "leader".

So I guess in a way it makes sense.

That's what I was thinking.

The author of the study said "authoritarian": in an attempt to smear.

But change authoritarian to assertive or aggressive, and you end up with good qualities required in a leader.