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Donald Trump Threatens Independent Run ... Again

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posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 10:49 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Seriously. Antics like this tell me he isn't Presidential material. It should be actions like this that people recognize and realize that and then not vote for him and stop supporting him.


Agreed, Trump isn't presidential material. On the flip side, the RNC and DNC are scum, they have no intention of listening to the people to make their choice. As far as the RNC, they stacked the audience at the last debate with establishment donors and lobbyists to boo everything Trump said. The lobbyists and donors will pick the GOP nominee, and it won't be Trump because he won't allow himself to be controlled by him. I can't blame him if he goes independent because the GOP will use underhanded tricks to force him out of their tent. He knows he will get the last laugh though If he runs independent, guarantying Hillary will be the next POTUS and costing the GOP the election. He's not legally bound by the agreement he signed back in August to not go independent.

And as far as the DNC goes, Sanders has overwhelming popular support in every demographic except women 45 and over. Sanders has the majority of young women, who Hillary assumed she would get in a cakewalk. But super delegates don't have to go with the popular candidate and Debbie Wasserman Schultz basically admitted the nomination is rigged for Hillary.
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posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: interupt42

I know that Ron Paul had a lot of internet support, but Paul didn't have nearly as much actual support as we like to think he did. There is a reason that Bernie and Trump pose a problem to their respective parties. It's because they actually DO have the support. Comparing either the Trump or the Sanders campaign to the Paul campaign does injustice to those two campaigns (and I can't believe I just defended the Trump campaign...) at this point in time.



posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 10:55 AM
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originally posted by: ArchangelUriel
Trump is crude and his supporters are revolting. If he runs 3rd party I'm sure his supporters will come back to the establishment and support sane policies like more mid east wars, free trade and illegal immigration.


Do I note a hint of sarcasm in your response? If not, don't count on it. That's why him and Sanders have popular support, because most people are tired of the 'establishment', i.e. politics as usual which is doing nothing for them.



posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 11:04 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t




but Paul didn't have nearly as much actual support as we like to think he did.

That was because the GOP and foxnews had a constant feed saying Ron Paul was crazy and a radical. Despite him being against the war and foreseeing just about everything that is occurring today.

Plus the internet was not as big a force in politics as it is today.



Comparing either the Trump or the Sanders campaign to the Paul campaign does injustice to those two campaigns


Regardless whether you believe in Ron Pauls policies or not, his campaign opened the door For Bernie and Trump. He opened the eyes of many people to realize that the DNC and GOP are an establishment tool.

He even had a Liberal Media source like John Stewart demonstrate the corruption and agenda, who (including bern fan) likely got their first look at the blatant agenda in politics.

Ron Paul also opened the internet as a force to be reckoned with in politics that both Trump and Bernie are using.

So I don't think 'injustice' would be the term I would use.



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posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 11:10 AM
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a reply to: UnBreakable

So what can we do now?
Move to a small island in the caribbean and open a tiki bar and just forget about it?

Wait- that might be good



posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 11:13 AM
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Like I keep saying Trump is no Gump and he is giving the Reps the Hump and now he may even give them the Bump!

So Trump may well end up an independent TrumPOTUS! That would be amazing to see unfold and absolutely refreshingly Trumptastic!

Trump holds the cards and is going to Trump the other player/s!



posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 11:17 AM
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posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: SunnyDee
What kind of committee that forces someone to join there group under the pretense that if he stayed with them, they would back him also, loads an entire audience with political opponents?


When was Donald forced to join the RNC? More victim-speak. He wasn't forced to be a Republican OR forced to sign the pledge!



He has made a lot of arguments in public that are getting ignored not only by the RNC, and the entire govt, but by sadly sheeple too.


Yeah, I try to ignore idiocy, for the most part.



Is Cruz a legitimate candidate being born in Canada? The term natural born needs to be addressed and more specifically defined by a court of law.


I agree with you on this. I hope Trump does sue Cruz and further make a mockery of the GOP.
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posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: superman2012
a reply to: SunnyDee
Us Canadians are crafty. First a Canadian US president, then your national animal becomes the majestic moose! Poutine anyone?



And don't forget the most insidious part, they are going to start calling ham bacon... Brr, that just gives me chills.



posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

The establishment is getting desperate. Out of 2,000 seats, 1,017 tickets were given to big establishment donors, all of whom were against Trump. You don't have to believe it was stacked, and you can keep that bridge you think you can sell to those that know this was stacked against Trump. He'll continue to get large amounts of support. All this has done is expose the establishment. I don't care what Trump is or what party he claims, he says exactly what I like to hear and until that changes, he'll have my support.



posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: Krazysh0t
That was because the GOP and foxnews had a constant feed saying Ron Paul was crazy and a radical. Despite him being against the war and foreseeing just about everything that is occurring today.

Plus the internet was not as big a force in politics as it is today.


Whatever the reasons for Paul's failure, Paul's campaign is no longer comparable to either ones.


Regardless whether you believe in Ron Pauls policies or not, his campaign opened the door For Bernie and Trump. He opened the eyes of many people to realize that the DNC and GOP are an establishment tool.


I never denied this.


He even had a Liberal Media source like John Stewart demonstrate the corruption and agenda, who (including bern fan) likely got their first look at the blatant agenda in politics.

Ron Paul also opened the internet as a force to be reckoned with in politics that both Trump and Bernie are using.

So I don't think 'injustice' would be the term I would use.


Back off dude. I'm not trying to attack Ron Paul. I'm just trying to point out that his campaign is no longer comparable to the campaigns in this election. Even he was a trailblazer.
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posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Krazysh0t

The establishment is getting desperate. Out of 2,000 seats, 1,017 tickets were given to big establishment donors, all of whom were against Trump. You don't have to believe it was stacked, and you can keep that bridge you think you can sell to those that know this was stacked against Trump. He'll continue to get large amounts of support. All this has done is expose the establishment. I don't care what Trump is or what party he claims, he says exactly what I like to hear and until that changes, he'll have my support.


So you admit to zealotry?



posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: LSU0408

From Breitbart source:



Sources close to the process who work for the RNC, but are not authorized to speak on the record, confirmed to Breitbart News throughout the evening on Saturday that that is standard operating procedure for the RNC and the party as a whole for all debates: Donors get tickets while voters have to watch on TV at home.


Source

If Donald wants to play in the Big Leagues, he needs to follow the same rules as everyone else. Contrary to his belief, he is not a special snowflake.



posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

On both sides. Look at the NH numbers. That's even more clear than the GOP side. How much did Bernie win by? 22.4 points, and with his "tie" in Iowa, Clinton has 394 delegates, both super and electorally assigned, to only 42 for Sanders. This, to me, isn't about the party lines anymore, this is about us vs the government and we all need to get our # together and get on the same page.



posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 11:38 AM
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Top Four Candidates:

- Hillary Clinton - Likely to see herself taken to court at best and perhaps even end up in jail.
- Donald Trump - Like a bull in a china shop, nothing survives his approach. If elected, the US may be next.
- Bernie Sanders - So far to the left that Vladimir Lenin would have been proud to repeat everything that he says.
- Ted Cruz - Is he American or is he Canadian? Only your hairdresser knows for sure!

In all of the presidential elections I have taken part in as a voter since the mid-1970s, I have never seen such a ridiculously unworthy body of candidates. Moreover, party has no place here because NEITHER has ANYONE to offer.

So, if one wants to attack Trump then, please, have at it! But, by golly-gee, don't act insulted if someone else gets the same urge to offer the same treatment to any of the others.

November 2016 - The Year and Election Our Political System Screwed the Pooch!

Have a nice day


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posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

That doesn't change a thing. The establishment is getting desperate now and doing everything they can to make Trump look bad for no good reason other than he's just not their chosen one. That wouldn't set well with anyone, would it? Sure as heck not if you're the front runner. The same thing is happening to Bernie, do you accept that you may have to pull the lever for Hillary simply because the DNC didn't give two craps what the people wanted and chose for themselves?



posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 11:52 AM
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a reply to: LSU0408

Look, I totally believe that the RNC and the GOP are doing everything they can to prevent Donald from becoming the nominee. I've seen that happening for a long time (in previous elections). They were successful in convincing everyone that Ron Paul is a crazy little man - that Mitt Romney was the best guy. And the DNC is doing their best to convince everyone that Democratic Socialism is Communism and scary. I see it happening in both parties. I'm not arguing that.

My point is that Donald NEVER takes responsibility for ANYTHING that happens to him. It's ALWAYS someone else's fault. He is a HUGE victim and that's the style his presidency would take on. He would make the US a HUGE victim and blame every other country for anything that happens.

I can't believe his supporters can't see what a weak whiner he is. He can't play with the big boys. He's too sensitive and cries when he doesn't get his way. He needs to grow up.



posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t




Back off dude. I'm not trying to attack Ron Paul.


LOL, I'm no Paulite. Although I think he could have been a much better choice than Romney or McCain.

However, it sounded like you were offended that I put Bernie and Trump in the same level as Ron Paul as he was not worthy of it.



posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 12:10 PM
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Trump is positioning himself for a 3rd party bid. Many of his supporters will bail and go back to mainstream the GOP because they know full well that 3rd parties are losers and they don't want to waste their vote against the Dembs.

I never really thought Trump wanted to be a politician...he just wanted attention. He got it....



posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Krazysh0t

On both sides. Look at the NH numbers. That's even more clear than the GOP side. How much did Bernie win by? 22.4 points, and with his "tie" in Iowa, Clinton has 394 delegates, both super and electorally assigned, to only 42 for Sanders. This, to me, isn't about the party lines anymore, this is about us vs the government and we all need to get our # together and get on the same page.


Well to me, Sanders and Trump represent two VASTLY differently campaigns. One that is about honest and integrity and the other that is about being as obnoxious as possible and appealing to people's fears.




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