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Bernie now tied in Nevada!!!

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posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 09:02 AM
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Bernie Sanders has come from a 46 point deficit in the polling to now tie Hilary Clinton!!!

This is breaking news, I just found it on Real Clear Politics and haven't seen any articles on this yet.

Nevada's feeling the Bern!




posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 09:03 AM
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a reply to: pianopraze

Imagine how great it would be to see Sanders totally crush Clinton in Nevada!



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: pianopraze

now how do the supers feel about that?



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 09:09 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: pianopraze

Imagine how great it would be to see Sanders totally crush Clinton in Nevada!


Gotta' love the underdog!

The date was 4/8-4/10 on the poll with the largest sample size to date.

I don't know if they just released the results or if it's news bias and they don't want to report it.

Closest I came was an article on The Hill which said that the Clinton campaign was trying to tone down the rhetoric in Nevada while her supporters were saying she was going to dominate the state:




allon’s comments were telling to some Democrats who think the state is Clinton’s to lose. While a poll on the Democratic candidates hasn’t been conducted there since late 2015, the surveys at the time showed Clinton with a lead of nearly 20 points, according to RealClearPolitics.

“For reasons I don’t understand, the Clinton campaign seems to be downplaying chances in Nevada,” said Jim Manley, a Democratic strategist who served as a spokesman for then-Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). “As far as I’m concerned, it’s tailor-made for a Clinton victory.”

edit on 15-2-2016 by pianopraze because: finished sentence



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 09:30 AM
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a reply to: DrakeINFERNO

Right!
Bernie can thrash her butt in the voting, but she will get the delegates. The DNC doesn't believe in grass-roots campaigns!



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: DrakeINFERNO

Right!
Bernie can thrash her butt in the voting, but she will get the delegates. The DNC doesn't believe in grass-roots campaigns!


After watching all they did to Ron Paul last time I would have to say the Democrats are no worse than the Republicans.

Personally I would LOVE to see a Trump Vs. Sanders election.



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: pianopraze

That would be great, but Hillary already has half the delegates locked up and the rest promised to her.
Bernie fans need to march on the DNC.



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 09:47 AM
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People have been saying that it doesnt matter how popular Bernie is or what points he gets.. that the delegates decide who is on the election ticket.

Is that true? I mean.. I'd love to see Bernie win, but is this all really just a dog and pony show?

googling..

en.wikipedia.org...

so, Hilary has 420 delegates on her side compared to Bernie..

Hillary Clinton 420
Bernie Sanders 14

and its ultimately the delegates who decide on the candidate?

...

edit on am950298152016-02-15T09:50:04-06:00092016p by Agit8dChop because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 09:59 AM
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originally posted by: Agit8dChop
People have been saying that it doesnt matter how popular Bernie is or what points he gets.. that the delegates decide who is on the election ticket.

Is that true? I mean.. I'd love to see Bernie win, but is this all really just a dog and pony show?

googling..

en.wikipedia.org...

so, Hilary has 420 delegates on her side compared to Bernie..

Hillary Clinton 420
Bernie Sanders 14

and its ultimately the delegates who decide on the candidate?

...


originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: pianopraze

That would be great, but Hillary already has half the delegates locked up and the rest promised to her.
Bernie fans need to march on the DNC.


It's not as bad as it sounds right now. Those "Superdelegates" are not really assigned. They can change their mind up until they actually cast their votes. They usually go with whoever is winning. Last time with Obama Clintion had a majority of the Superdelegates in the beginning and they switched to Obama when it became clear later on he was winning.

This article explains it well:




Superdelegates are mathematically relevant when a candidate has 41.2 percent to 58.8 percent of elected delegates. Below that range, a candidate couldn’t win a first-ballot majority even with the votes of every superdelegate; above that range, the superdelegates’ help wouldn’t be necessary to clinch the nomination.

That’s still a fairly wide range, however. In theory, for example, a candidate could lose elected delegates 58 percent to 42 percent — equivalent2 to losing the average state by 16 percentage points — and still win the nomination through superdelegates.

My guess, especially given what we saw in 2008, is that superdelegates wouldn’t feel comfortable weighing in anywhere near that much on Clinton’s behalf. In the case where she’s won only 42 percent of elected delegates, she’ll have lost to Sanders all over the map, and any conceivable “electability” gains from nominating Clinton would be outweighed by alienating at least half of the Democratic base.


I suggest you read the whole article, it explains it in depth.



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 10:43 AM
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Hillary Clinton is going to be president, whether you like it or not...



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 10:50 AM
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It speaks to Hilary's profound disconnect with the electorate that she did not skate into the nomination..
Debbie Schulz all but made Hillary the de facto nominee..

It also speaks to Bernie's message resonating with the democratic base...

I am a conservative and while I disagree with Bernies's every political positions I genuinely believe him to be a good man with good motives...
He further strikes me as an honest, kind man I would be glad to have as a neighbor....

Hillary is most likely in complete freak out mode at this point...I wonder if her husband will have another "a few years ago he would carrying our bags" moment as he did in 2008 when a little known Illinois senator had a similar meteoric rise...

-Christosterone
edit on 15-2-2016 by Christosterone because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: NightFlight
Hillary Clinton is going to be president, whether you like it or not...


I might have (reluctantly) agreed with that a couple of months ago, but not anymore!!!!!



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 11:07 AM
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Doesn't really matter, Hillary will get more delegates than Bernie even if she loses by 100%



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 11:08 AM
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a reply to: KonigKaos

If she could lose by 100% the delegates actually would not matter.



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: Puppylove

Meaning it doesn't matter what happens Clinton will be the US President



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 01:19 PM
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I really wish Bernie would just stick it to these assholes, and if it was up to the voters it would've already happened.

Unfortunately this is party politics which has never been democratic. Voters don't choose a parties nominee, the delegates/super delegates do and it's wishful thinking that the democratic establishment is going to have last minute buyers remorse and cut their prize horse out of the race.

The fact that a candidate involved in 3 criminal investigations is considered a top contender, let alone still running, should scream volumes about how corrupt the system is and that it's already a forgone conclusion.

Trump and Sanders should both go third party.
edit on 15-2-2016 by Konduit because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 01:41 PM
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If Bernie wins the popular vote and normal delegates, but loses due to super delegates, the Democratic party risks pissing off all the new and transitioned voters that have shifted towards Dem in order to get Bernie the nod. This would be a sabotage not only to the voters, but to the future of the party as well. Young or first time voters, which from what I have heard are coming out really strong this election, are going to realize just how much the system is rigged and lose faith in the political process. Dems need a high voter turn out, and betraying the will of the people doesn't help that.



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 01:47 PM
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So are the 420 superdelgates across the whole of the states, or just from the two that voted so far?



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 01:48 PM
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a reply to: MrThortan

I agree. It would be too big of a risk of alienating so many Dem voters. I don't think the party would be stupid enough to do that. I believe the super delegates will switch over to Bernie when he wins more primaries/caucuses. I think they know it will be suicide for them and for the party if they don't.

As Bernie builds up even more momentum, the party won't want to risk him going independent and taking away so many votes. Better for the Democratic Socialist to win than someone from the GOP.



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: gspat
So are the 420 superdelgates across the whole of the states, or just from the two that voted so far?


From the whole of the states.

There are 4051 soft delegates Bernie can win out of 4763 total.

only 14.9% of the delegates are Superdelegates. Right now 3-400 of them are saying they will vote Clinton, but that always changes. This point in 2008 Most of them said they would vote Clinton but almost all of them switched and actually voted for Obama.



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