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Scalia Death Suspicious "We discovered the judge in bed, a pillow over his head."

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posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: texasgirl

This says the president of Argentina is at the Vatican.
www.usnews.com...




posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 02:50 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: dianajune

I read something in a travel listing for the ranch, I posted several pages back about the ranch offering folding beds to guests.




Air conditioning, Alarm clock, AM/FM radio, Bathtub only, Cable television, Coffee/Tea maker, Color television, Connecting rooms, Copier, Cribs, Direct dial phone number, Double beds, Fire alarm, Fire alarm with light, Fireplace, Free toll free calls, Free credit card access calls, Free local calls, Hairdryer, High speed internet connection, Iron, Ironing board, Non-smoking, Remote control television, Shower only, Smoke detectors, Turn down service, Wireless internet connection, Air conditioning individually controlled in room, Extra person charge for rollaway use, Pets allowed, Storage space, Accessible room, Self-controlled heating/cooling system, Extra adult charge, Extra child charge, Extra child charge for rollaway use, Maid service, Handicap room, High speed internet access fee, High speed wireless

www.texasescapes.com...


I really have a hard time imagining the 'Hunted Justice' concept.


I believe those were offered for a fee if there were extra guests staying in the room.

The beds along the hallway don't look like folded beds or cots.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 02:54 PM
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originally posted by: nikkib0421
a reply to: texasgirl

This says the president of Argentina is at the Vatican.
www.usnews.com...


OMG, I totally misread that. I thought he was in his homeland of Argentina meeting with the president. Sheesh...I've been on this site too long. My eyes are going buggy.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: texasgirl

I did the same at first!



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: nikkib0421
a reply to: texasgirl

This says the president of Argentina is at the Vatican.
www.usnews.com...


Motive?



No relief for Argentina on debt

Unmoved by pleas that ruling against Argentina on how it manages its overseas debt will upset the entire global process of government borrowing, the Supreme Court on Monday firmly rejected any legal relief for that country against creditors to whom it owes billions.

In a seven-to-one decision (with one Justice not taking part), the Court ruled that investors who bought bonds that went into default and never drew any pay from Argentina can get access to a potentially wide array of bank records to locate financial assets overseas that those investors might be able to seize as compensation.

And, without comment, the Court cleared the way for those same investors to demand payment on the bonds they hold whenever Argentina makes any payments to holders of later bond issues which that country has continued to honor.




In an opinion by Justice Antonin Scalia, the Court rejected Argentina’s argument that those bondholders could only seek information about assets that that country keeps in the United States. Argentina had relied upon a 1976 U.S. law seeking to insulate foreign governments from some legal obligations in U.S. courts.

For one thing, Justice Scalia noted, Argentina had given up its immunity to demands for information about its assets that could be used to cover its obligations on debts. But, in addition, Scalia wrote, the 1976 law on foreign immunity simply says nothing at all about giving foreign governments immunity to demands that they produce information that may be necessary to satisfy a debt obligation they had undertaken.


The Scalia opinion had the support of six other Justices.

www.scotusblog.com...

edit on 27-2-2016 by IAMTAT because: highlighting

edit on 27-2-2016 by IAMTAT because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Well, that's interesting. People have killed over less money.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 03:14 PM
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a reply to: nikkib0421

Looks like a confluence of Scalia enemies.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: dianajune

I read something in a travel listing for the ranch, I posted several pages back about the ranch offering folding beds to guests.




Air conditioning, Alarm clock, AM/FM radio, Bathtub only, Cable television, Coffee/Tea maker, Color television, Connecting rooms, Copier, Cribs, Direct dial phone number, Double beds, Fire alarm, Fire alarm with light, Fireplace, Free toll free calls, Free credit card access calls, Free local calls, Hairdryer, High speed internet connection, Iron, Ironing board, Non-smoking, Remote control television, Shower only, Smoke detectors, Turn down service, Wireless internet connection, Air conditioning individually controlled in room, Extra person charge for rollaway use, Pets allowed, Storage space, Accessible room, Self-controlled heating/cooling system, Extra adult charge, Extra child charge, Extra child charge for rollaway use, Maid service, Handicap room, High speed internet access fee, High speed wireless

www.texasescapes.com...


I really have a hard time imagining the 'Hunted Justice' concept.


Sure seems like alot of "extra" charges whether for adults for children. If I was traveling with my family and kids were with us, I would want something more secure. With our own keys.....and nothing that can be accessed from outside (like Scalia's sliding doors). Re. the beds in the hallway, there aren't even any dressers. Just tall lamps next to each one.

Where are they supposed to put their things? On the floor next to the beds?

Or is there another use for the beds in the hallway?

Ok, I'm way out there...but that place is creepy and makes no sense to me.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 03:49 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

This could be a motive. But they'd have more Justices to go after.

Hagmann and Hagmann were saying that according to their source, there will be one more vacancy on the Supreme Court before Obama leaves office. They didn't say how, whether it be due to a death or resignation.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall during that meeting.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 03:57 PM
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In regards to the single beds... they very well could be the folded
stow-aways. Really nice folded stow-aways hide the wheels & you
don't see the the wheels until you start to fold it & the wheels come
down from the center area.

Maybe the inside door locks were intended for use during private
conversations or for intimate moments.

You guys are doing a fabulous job!

Cheers
Ektar

edit on 2722016 by Ektar because: left out info



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 04:42 PM
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originally posted by: Ektar
In regards to the single beds... they very well could be the folded
stow-aways. Really nice folded stow-aways hide the wheels & you
don't see the the wheels until you start to fold it & the wheels come
down from the center area.

Maybe the inside door locks were intended for use during private
conversations or for intimate moments.

You guys are doing a fabulous job!

Cheers
Ektar


But these beds have headboards. There are also framed maps above the beds, lamps on each side and tall bookshelves next to them. Those beds look a little more permanent with all those decorative accessories.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: texasgirl

Is this an interior hallway or an outdoor walkway? To me it looks like it's outside, but I will look again.

Nevermind. They're inside. Just near some windows or doors that lead out.

Could these be for security guards for important guests?
edit on 27-2-2016 by nikkib0421 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 06:07 PM
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originally posted by: dianajune

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: dianajune

I read something in a travel listing for the ranch, I posted several pages back about the ranch offering folding beds to guests.




Air conditioning, Alarm clock, AM/FM radio, Bathtub only, Cable television, Coffee/Tea maker, Color television, Connecting rooms, Copier, Cribs, Direct dial phone number, Double beds, Fire alarm, Fire alarm with light, Fireplace, Free toll free calls, Free credit card access calls, Free local calls, Hairdryer, High speed internet connection, Iron, Ironing board, Non-smoking, Remote control television, Shower only, Smoke detectors, Turn down service, Wireless internet connection, Air conditioning individually controlled in room, Extra person charge for rollaway use, Pets allowed, Storage space, Accessible room, Self-controlled heating/cooling system, Extra adult charge, Extra child charge, Extra child charge for rollaway use, Maid service, Handicap room, High speed internet access fee, High speed wireless

www.texasescapes.com...


I really have a hard time imagining the 'Hunted Justice' concept.


Sure seems like alot of "extra" charges whether for adults for children. If I was traveling with my family and kids were with us, I would want something more secure. With our own keys.....and nothing that can be accessed from outside (like Scalia's sliding doors). Re. the beds in the hallway, there aren't even any dressers. Just tall lamps next to each one.

Where are they supposed to put their things? On the floor next to the beds?

Or is there another use for the beds in the hallway?

Ok, I'm way out there...but that place is creepy and makes no sense to me.


When Nichols went through the ranch did he ask the owner or manager any questions about the beds, like, why are they in the hallway leading to the El Presidente suite? And why do most rooms have only twin beds?



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: nikkib0421

It's a hallway that supposedly leads to the El Presidente suite that Scalia was staying in.

I don't know...Like Dianajune said there's no place to put their suitcase items.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 06:32 PM
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Here's something a little chilling:

Border Patrol Corruption

bordercorruption.apps.cironline.org...

In the top 3 crimes listed: Human Trafficking

And Texas accounts for approx. 25% cases of child trafficking in the U.S.

Makes me wonder what those beds are for at the ranch



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: texasgirl

OK, thanks I had not seen a picture & was going off
the commentary here...
That is a lot of bed accessories!

Cheers
Ektar



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: texasgirl

Oh my.

I have been looking into human trafficking also. I never thought to look at it from the border patrol angle.

Concering the beds: I would think they wouldn't be out in the open if they're for that purpose?

Maybe we should just call and ask them...?



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: nikkib0421

This party Scalia attended wasn't open to the public. Poindexter only holds these events a few times a year. AND he paid for all his guests.



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 07:57 PM
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Timeline of Events Surrounding Scalia's Death

There being disjointed and scant details regarding the events surrounding the death of Justice Scalia, I've gathered information from various reports and assembled it here.

Background

Cibolo Creek Ranch is a 30,000-acre ranch near Marfa, Texas

The resort sits in the middle of the Chihuahua Desert, 15 miles from Mexico, at the foot of the jagged Chinati Mountains

The nearest town is Shafter, Texas, population 11

Cibolo Creek Ranch is a luxury 33-room resort with a private airstrip about 4 miles from the main office, rooms cost from $395 to $800 per night

John Poindexter, a Houston businessman owns the Cibolo Creek Ranch

Houston-born millionaire John Poindexter, a Vietnam veteran and self-published military historian, bought and restored the antebellum forts spread over 30,000 acres to become luxury accommodations. Since the 1990s, Poindexter has kept a private home on the ranch

Justice Scalia and the other guests were staying at the ranch free for the weekend.

Poindexter said that "once [Scalia's] presence was even a potential [for the quail trip], we did all we possibly could do attract him here."

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Timeline


Friday Feb 12, 2016


Scalia and an unnamed friend from Washington, D.C. arrived at the Cibolo Ranch around noon Friday by chartered aircraft traveling through Houston for a private party with about 40 people. [1][2][3][6]

Later that day, Scalia went out with the group to hunt blue quail. But "he did not exert himself," Poindexter said. "He got out of the hunting vehicle and walked around some." [4]

The quail hunting group, including Scalia, had a "jolly lunch," and in the afternoon, some guests hunted quail, but Scalia just observed, Poindexter said. [5]

Poindexter said he sat a few seats away from Scalia at dinner, where the justice seemed "animated" and a "delightful guest." [5]

Around 9 PM, after a cocktail reception and dinner, Justice Scalia told Mr. Poindexter that he was going to turn in for the night, and went to the property's presidential suite.[7]

Scalia went to bed early. But Poindexter said that didn't seem unusual: All of the guests were tired from traveling to the remote ranch, as well as the day's other activities. Everyone was in bed by 10 PM, he said. Scalia's behavior, Poindexter said, "was entirely natural and normal." [4]

Poindexter says Scalia was his "usual, personable self." [8]

Scalia seemed tired that night, but Poindexter said he was not concerned about his health. [5]

In the day leading up to his death, Justice Scalia was "very congenial, very convivial," Mr. Poindexter said. [7]

Saturday Feb 13, 2016

The next morning, Justice Scalia did not appear for breakfast. Poindexter at first thought he might be sleeping late, but eventually he grew concerned and went to look for him.

At 8:30 AM Scalia did not respond to a knock at the door of his suite. John B. Poindexter, the property's owner, was not alarmed. "I knocked on the door loudly," said Mr. Poindexter. "I had him in a very large room - a suite - and I thought he might be in the bathroom." Scalia's room was an expansive suite called the "El Presidente."

Just after 11 AM, Mr. Poindexter and a friend of Justice Scalia's tried the door again, again to no answer. They entered the room, and it took no medical training, Mr. Poindexter said, to recognize that Justice Scalia was dead. [2] [7]

Scalia was "stone cold" and had no pulse, Poindexter said. His hands were on his chest and he seemed "relaxed," Poindexter said. [1]

Mr. Poindexter called a hospital and, without identifying Justice Scalia, reported what had happened. A hospital official, Mr. Poindexter said, assessed that it would be impossible to resuscitate Justice Scalia, and ranch officials contacted the United States Marshals Service. [2] [7]

Poindexter and the friend called the emergency room, and the local sheriff and several U.S. Marshals came to the scene, he said. [1]

After discovery of the body around 11:00 AM the Justice of the Peace was contacted.

The Ranch is within Precinct 2, Justice of the Peace Juanita Bishop was out of town and duty devolved to the Justice of the Peace for Precinct 1, David Beebe. Beebe was going to a candidate forum in Alpine and was also unavailable. Neither Bishop nor Beebe knew the deceased was Justice Scalia. J.P. Bishop then contacted County Judge Cinderella Guevara. [10]

Presidio County Sheriff Danny Dominguez called County Judge Cinderela Guevera on her mobile phone after lunch. "He says, 'Judge, I'm at Cibolo Creek Ranch, and a Supreme Court Justice has just passed away, and I need someone here immediately. Both justices of the peace are out of town at this time,'" Guevara recounted to WFAA. "I said, 'Sheriff, what did you say? Which Supreme Court Justice died at Cibolo Creek Ranch?' And the phone went dead, because our connection was very bad," she explained. Cell phone service is spotty in far West Texas. There's no service at the ranch where Scalia passed away. Guevara said Dmoinguez called back repeatedly for 20 minutes, at the mercy of cell service. [6] [9]

Guevara said she pronounced Scalia dead over the phone at 1:52 p.m. on Saturday. [9]

She planned to drive to the ranch - about 30 minutes south of Marfa - but returned when a U.S. Marshal told her by phone: "It's not necessary for you to come, judge. If you're asking for an autopsy, that's what we need to clarify." [9]

Sheriff Dominguez and his deputies were the first local law enforcement officers to arrive [11]

Asked why Judge Gonzalez felt able to issue a death certificate stating Scalia died of natural causes without seeing the body or an autopsy carried out, Sheriff Dominguez says: "If there's no suspicious circumstances, then that is allowed under Texas law." "She made that decision after speaking with me and after making calls to his doctor and his family." [11]

Justice Scalia's personal doctor called Judge Guevera at 8 PM Saturday night.[9] Guevara said she talked to Scalia's doctor in Washington, D.C.[15]

[Sheriff Dominguez's statement that Judge Guevera was able to issue a death certificate based on what Scalia's doctor said is obviously false. Guevera spoke with the doctor six hours after declaring Scalia died of "natural causes", the physician consultation did not inform her decisions]

The body arrived at El Paso at either 2:30 AM or 3:30 AM Sunday Feb 14, 2016.[13][14] The trip to El Paso took three hours.[8] Which indicates a departure time of either 11:30 PM Saturday or 12:30 AM Sunday

Once at El Paso the Sunset Funeral Home embalmed Scalia's remains.[14]

www.freerepublic.com...



posted on Feb, 27 2016 @ 08:15 PM
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Ahh, I see. So these beds aren't there all the time. Gotcha.



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