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Capitalism is my religion!

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posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 12:05 AM
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That's right folks, you heard it here first! I worship capitalism! It's my everything! I play monopoly ritually every Friday when the markets close on Wall Street! I love it! It's the only thing that works! Capitalism in its best form is unbridled and relentless, the more you own the better of a person you are! Smarter, better looking, and young! When used correctly you can have more stuff then everyone in your neighborhood!

Now back to the real world.

What is it with all the capitalism worship? Why do people assume it's the official end all be all to economics and wealth and resource distribution?

Wouldn't a system that focuses on effective resource management and proper wealth distribution with elements of capitalism in micro economies be more efficient long term usage of earth and its resources?

I know I know, an idealistic utopia that can't exist.
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posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 12:10 AM
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a reply to: onequestion

Hey One, I just gave you a star and flag. Can ya believe it?


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posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 12:11 AM
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originally posted by: onequestion

Maybe we stopped enslaving Africans and allowing Wahhabist Saudi royals to have so much control Boko Haram and ISIS wouldn't exist in the first place.


I can't tell if you're suggesting that the end of slavary caused ISIS or that slavery in the first place caused ISIS. And I'm not sure what notion is more ridiculous.



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 12:12 AM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

In fact I can't!

But thank you!
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posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 12:14 AM
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a reply to: ExNihiloRed

They are directly related to capitalism.

Saudis = oil

Africa = mineral resources, diamonds and gold

I delete that from the soap it will derail the thread.
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posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 12:18 AM
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a reply to: onequestion

I think the majority of us on this site are proud Americans.

I also think Bernie Sanders is a proud American and I'm pretty sure he supports Capitalism.
He has been working to improve upon it for some 40 years now.

Pretty sure we all have Capitalism as our religion, Sanders and his supporters, like myself just want to add more egalitarianism to it.

Two memes for this






posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 12:20 AM
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You had me there for a second. I thought capitalism was your religion. What is sad is that it didn't surprise me someone would say this. I for one do not believe in the myth that an unregulated free market economy would just magically balance out in a fair and productive manner for society. Neither am I a socialist though. I don't believe any economic system will successfully lead to the prosperity of humanity heading into the year 2100 and beyond. We can only manipulate this planets carrying capacity so far until it breaks and inevitably leads to a collapse. Humanity needs a social/technological singularity.



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 12:22 AM
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a reply to: onequestion

It's a travesty.

Monopoly is to the economy as a house is to the world.

Four occupants, locked in a board, rolling dice, to the death.



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 12:22 AM
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a reply to: onequestion




What is it with all the capitalism worship?


Because mankind has forgotten,that we survived due to working together and sharing resources with the tribe.Not by being a lone wolf out to get just what we need and want. Lone wolves live and die out by themselves,and that is what we now have. I am not for total socialism,I do think we need people working on innovations for the future. But we have to remember that we got where we are by working and sharing with all so we stood a chance at survival.



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 12:25 AM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

Bernie sanders also realizes that in its purest form it's as destructive as communism.

It works in micro economics but when wealth begins to build it gets out of control.



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 12:27 AM
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a reply to: onequestion

Exactly!




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posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 01:21 AM
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a reply to: onequestion
Honestly, I think that it can be here on ATS that just because people dissagree on a specific issue it does not mean that they dissagree on all issues.



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 01:31 AM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I totally agree. I see all issues as separate entities.



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 03:51 AM
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a reply to: onequestion

Most people like what they have and therefore don't want to change. The vast majority of people, including the very poor have access to think that they only have access to thanks to the very large increase in the amount of goods produced under capitalism. It's not like it's the 1600's anymore and a person wills another person a pair of pants (the now second pair of pants they'll ever own in their lives) after they die from a lack of quality food to go around.

There are several arguments against Capitalism but none are based on the idea that it doesn't work. It just doesn't work as well as it could with a few restrictions. Just about everyone agrees (or at a minimum everyone here agrees... small steps) that unrestrained free trade is harmful. Workers in developed nations can't compete with workers in undeveloped nations where they can be paid much less. This is an example of an unregulated free market in action. Furthermore, we have seen that all unregulated free markets destroy themselves, because eventually some market force gains enough power that it can change the rules.

Therefore, from this premise we wind up at the fact that free trade doesn't work, and free markets don't work. Some level of regulation is a necessity in order for capitalism to function. The amount of regulation is an open question but it must be there, which means that pure capitalism is a mythical concept that cannot actually be implemented.

Remember back in the 1700's when the Church issued edicts on everyone being paid a fair wage, and ensured they had enough to live on? It's actually pretty interesting just how far back fair wage laws go, they didn't start with the US adoption of a minimum wage in 1913.

I don't understand why so many people want to move away from such a thing other than a need to reaffirm they made better economic choices than some others did.



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 06:24 AM
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originally posted by: onequestion

Wouldn't a system that focuses on effective resource management and proper wealth distribution with elements of capitalism in micro economies be more efficient long term usage of earth and its resources?

I know I know, an idealistic utopia that can't exist.


Oh, it's not that it CAN'T exist. It's that it isn't a utopia. It's just as bad as anything else you can think of. It will work but not without treating people like raw materials rather than people. Which is exactly the same problem the communists claim is the worst thing about capitalism.

Now we have been living under capitalism for a long time and regardless of it's flaws, most of us know what to expect. We were born into this system and were taught that these were the rules to live by. To try and change those rules on people abruptly in the middle of life is intolerable. I will not be forced into any more molds in the name of idealism that won't work any better than what is already there. If you want to be treated like a raw material (and/or an obstacle to it's harvest), you can have that right now.



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 09:24 PM
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Here is my religion:
And I suppose one can get there by the simple guidelines:
"Do unto others, as you would have others do unto you."
i.e. as long as all involved are willing and want to participate; without deceit and lies. Additionally, one is not to infringe upon, nor offend others in public; with abusive, nor wanton ways; (and keep your pants up!). No harm, no foul. BE... King (or Queen) of your own Castle. i.e. your mind. As long as one can do, and remain with a CLEAR CONSCIENCE. Additionally, this includes the literal Castle of your own residence; or place of business (i.e. no one is forced to enter; either one). Lest not forget... Genesis 1:29 (and 1:12... thank you, Cypress Hill... thank you, Cypress Hill)... and, ok... kick in John 3:16; for the ballgames! And, above ALL... protect the innocent; i.e. the children and the animals; from man. PERIOD. Be responsible for yourself... have some consideration for others; i.e. for the next guy/gal... clean up your own messes... and live... and let live. Enjoy the ride.

I call it Bundyism -- grab your bongs!

And for the rest of my data dump of my writings from my psychotic episodes go to twitter.com...

That's BoroBundy -- scroll down to 2-6-16 to start where I began THIS data dump. Feel free to follow.



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