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originally posted by: ParasuvO
a reply to: MrSpad
Ever notice how you have a slant towards Russia being the bad guy and being in unwinnable positions all the time ?
It is high time for the world to say, WHO CARES.
And seriously, the unraveling of all the so-called relationships you imagine that are so tight, is happening even now.
The people could care less about who nukes who, please stop pretending things aren't going according to plan.
Not plans made by Russia either.
Russia this, Russia that,
He added that if Turkey intervened in Syria they would find "the entire Syrian people confronting them".
originally posted by: 2012newstart
YPG refutes Turkish claims: “We haven’t fired a single bullet against the Turkish state” - @4rj1n
BREAKING: Saudi Foreign Minister:"Russia will fail in protecting Bashar al-Assad" - @ZeinakhodrAljaz
originally posted by: Mastronaut
I'm not anymore sure there are only 2 alliances in this deal. I have to agree with those who don't threat Saudis and Turks as american puppets. I feel like the Saudi Arab League is a response to lack of action from the USA-led coalition and while both states share common interests in the region, they are pursuing their own interdependent foreign policy.
And I'm not sure Israel would be happy to see thousands of arab militias proceeding to its borders which complicates the relations between the coalitions. In fact Israel is probably a meeting point for Russia and West, but is in conflict with russian arab and iranian ties. It's a big mess.
Turkey has the mean of blackmailing EU with refugees and NATO with involvment in direct conflict with Russia. Despite an aggression in Syria would spare Turkey from art. 5, the tensions would rise to an unprecedented level. Nor you can kick an ally like Turkey from NATO, because you'd need to also disarm it of those nukes and secure the military assets of the alliance.
So far we have shells from Turkish territory against Syrian one. They surely don't want to test the reliability of the S-400 and Su-35 and whatever else is deployed there. However what happens if turkish shells shot from Turkey end up blowing some russian squad? Would russian be allowed to bomb them without sparking a NATO intervention? I'm not sure at all, so this gives a sort of advantage to Turkey, but I don't see how they can try a direct military action wheter by plane or ground troops without suffering heavy casualties. In fact I think this is what Putin's waiting for.
This morning I was reading an article in veteran's today, that I can't find anymore, talking about Saudi deploying tactical nukes in Incirlik and Obama removing nuclear bombers.
Since Turkey couldn't use NATO nukes in any case I don't find it unreasonable, given the OP title promises escalation. Since the source isn't very reliable and I can't link you what I was reading, does anyone read any speculation about this?
Turkey has the mean of blackmailing EU
originally posted by: Mastronaut
I'm seeing reports that the US urges Turkey to refrain from attacking, but the come from RT. Is there any other source reporting this?
edit: found this on the wsj (behind paywall):