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If you claim to follow Jesus, but reject His disciples, you reject Jesus and His word.

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posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 10:39 AM
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We know as a matter of historical fact that the disciples of Jesus differed quite much from the 3rd-4th century church elders who adopted a different kind of Christianity than what Jesus taught. The Churches of today should refix the Constantinian Christianity ASAP. Including to proclaim Jesus was married, as dozen of gospels say. Including to define clearly the angels as extraterrestrial higher beings serving God. God never was shown face to face to anyone, neither to Moses. It were the extraterrestrial angels=messengers. Ezekiel 1.

What we read in the canonical gospels of "Jesus ascending into a "cloud" should be said with the terminology of our age, that should be a spaceship to go to his designated hi place in higher galaxy/system. It is hard to believe He still sits on some cloud waiting for Armageddon. This is absurd that served the dark ages and that flattened the earth, because it couldn;t be explained otherwise about the rest of the stars and to fit with the so much changed story.

There should be comprehensive new reread of the Bible and the Gospels, including those who were not included at that time.
I do not expect you to agree with me, but I have to say my point of view, because that is also a mission.
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posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 10:44 AM
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a reply to: 2012newstart

Constantine? What, that horrible Roman git who screwed up the message in the first place?

The less the Romans have to do with any future worship of Christ, the better.



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 10:48 AM
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originally posted by: Akragon

How much of the NT did Jesus write


And if He had of
Imagine all the atheists saying He was , well you work it out

You just don't reason logic I am afraid



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 11:10 AM
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a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

One small flaw the term Gospel of Salvation never appears in scripture.

Gospel of the Kingdom does

Gospel of the grace of God does

Everlasting Gospel does.

And these three are not the same.



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 12:42 PM
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a reply to: ChesterJohn

Well, salvation is a gift of grace. But you are correct.



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: BELIEVERpriest


Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Just to be clear

It is by the grace of God that we are saved through faith alone. That salvation is the gift of God.



posted on Mar, 14 2016 @ 04:04 PM
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a reply to: BELIEVERpriest


I'm just showing that those who tend to reject the messages of the Apostles generally do so to deny the Divinity of Christ and reduce Jesus to the status of some wise philosopher.


Wow, so you DO GET IT!!!!

You are absolutely correct. A wise philosopher. Just like Siddhartha Gautuama Buddah, and all the others.

Ancient Eastern Philosophy:
On the Ancient Wisdom of Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism & Confucianism

Deal with that.

We find this connected harmony of a dynamic unity of reality (God, Brahman, Tao, Spirit, Energy, Light, Vibration) is central to all major world religions, thus their common, and very important moral foundation of 'Do unto others as to thyself'. This is true - the other is part of the self! To me this is all we need to know to live kindly with one another, with all life on Earth.

Please Help Humanity by Sharing this Knowledge.

From this most simple foundation of plane waves in space naturally creating two different modes of vibration - spherical particle vibrations and complex field vibrations - we can now deduce all of modern physics.

However, the complexity that evolves from this simple dynamic wave system is extraordinary, as is required to explain how such amazing life can exist in the universe. Most importantly, we can see why evolution (change) and ecology (interconnection) are true as they are properties of physical reality.


Interesting site. Just discovered it.



Got the mind pried open? Admittance is free to the facts museum....today and every day. Read, think, relax. You'll get there. Take some deep breaths. We "socialists" got your back.


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posted on Mar, 14 2016 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: Murgatroid

A lot of good points in that video. Thank you.



So predictable another backslapping thread between the usual suspects.
If Christianity (OT/NT completeness -Trinity doctrine) is so sound, you wouldn't need so much time spent defending them.
I mean after all YHWH is so great!

You cant fool people anymore in this age of the Internet.
Information & knowledge and critical thinking set people free.
We're onto you....hehehe



posted on Mar, 14 2016 @ 06:40 PM
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a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Nice. Thanks for contributing an objective opinion.



posted on Mar, 14 2016 @ 07:43 PM
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Nice. Thanks for contributing an objective opinion.


How about you address your hypocrisy? Try contibruting that.....objectively.

Sources have been provided. Your "interpretation" is that which is amiss.
Address it.



posted on Mar, 14 2016 @ 07:58 PM
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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: BELIEVERpriest


Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Just to be clear

It is by the grace of God that we are saved through faith alone. That salvation is the gift of God.


Funny that Jesus himself never spoke this. In fact he said to get into the kingdom of heaven one must keep his commandments.



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