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San Francisco built an outdoor urinal

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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 02:46 PM
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a reply to: Obsrvr


But that hasn't even been your issue in this thread - just merely urinating outside was your issue.
Fornication in public was your issue, people drinking cow urine (I mean WTF?) was your issue... you didn't mention screening.

You're against the idea entirely so why mention screening?

Sadly people DO piss up against buildings, down alley ways.... all sorts.
Mostly at night and mostly when drunk and it happens in EVERY single town and city the world over, it hasn't nothing to do with socialism, Urbanised areas or any other "reason" you make up in your own head.

People piss places... men.... they just do, it's a fact of life - it's gross, it shouldn't happen, it's not isolated in some uncivilised corner of the world as you seem to allude - it happens EVERYWHERE.

So we can carry on having people piss against walls, alleys, in shop doorways and whatever else... OR we can build these cheap, easy places like many parts of the world do and let people do their business.
You neither have to use or look at them if you choose... but the more civilised among us can choose to relieve themselves in them if they choose.


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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 02:49 PM
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Your against the idea entirely so why mention screening?


Did you bother reading the Wikipedia article you cited?

No, obviously not.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: Obsrvr
Great, why dont you start by hiring a few dozen mentally ill people and when that fails, then what? I suppose we can build a few thousand more prisons to lock them up in.

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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: Tuomptonite
a reply to: Obsrvr
Great, why dont you start by hiring a few dozen mentally ill people and when that fails, then what? I suppose we can build a few thousand more prisons to lock them up in.


If we made a half-assed attempt to emulate Scandinavian society we'd be halfway there.

These problems can be solved, but apparently, and ironically, not in a Capitalist society.
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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: Obsrvr

Your against the idea entirely so why mention screening?


Did you bother reading the Wikipedia article you cited?

No, obviously not.


Which article?

I read the one about the history of "pissers".

What exactly are you objecting to in the article?



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 02:56 PM
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Of course I did... but YOU mentioning screening is irrelevant because you're against the idea anyway.
You saying "oh yes with screening" like you'd be OK with it is disingenuous because your previous posts show you to be completely ignorant and prudish and against the idea in principle and in practice.

As you can't answer any of my other points I'll just stop trying to have a debate with you... you're clearly not up to it.


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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: blupblup
a reply to: Obsrvr

Of course I did... but YOU mentioning screening is irrelevant because you're against the idea anyway.
You saying "oh yes with screening" like you'd be OK with it is disingenuous because your previous posts show you to be completely ignorant and prudish.

As you can't answer any of my other points I'll just stop trying to have a debate with you... you're clearly not up to it.



Did you bother looking at the graphic on that Wiki page? Users are properly screened from passersby in that little cubicle.

Is it too much to ask to show some respect for people around you?



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 03:05 PM
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originally posted by: Obsrvr


Did you bother looking at the graphic on that Wiki page? Users are properly screened from passersby in that little cubicle.

Is it too much to ask to show some respect for people around you?



Yes.. I live in Europe, I'm well aware of what they look like.

Are you... like... slow or something, not being rude but are you? Do you have a memory issue?
Nowhere in your posts previous to me linking the article did you say the issue you had with the SF "pisser" was because the people weren't screened.
I posted the Wiki article to show that these outdoor pissers are commonplace elsewhere and are FAR better than having people piss in alleys or doorways or against walls - all points that you keep failing to address and constantly keep talking about the wiki article. I read it entirely, it's very short... I posted it to show that these are not unique to SF

You're against the idea because you think it's regressed and we'd be like animals or like the "cow piss drinking unevolved"

I looked through your posts...they're awful, ignorant, moronic and completely out of touch with reality.

But you carry on


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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 03:06 PM
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Way to attack me personally. Feel like a big man now?



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 03:07 PM
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originally posted by: Obsrvr

originally posted by: blupblup
a reply to: Obsrvr

Of course I did... but YOU mentioning screening is irrelevant because you're against the idea anyway.
You saying "oh yes with screening" like you'd be OK with it is disingenuous because your previous posts show you to be completely ignorant and prudish.

As you can't answer any of my other points I'll just stop trying to have a debate with you... you're clearly not up to it.



Did you bother looking at the graphic on that Wiki page? Users are properly screened from passersby in that little cubicle.

Is it too much to ask to show some respect for people around you?


Did you read the SF article that they plan to plant trees around the pisser"?
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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 03:09 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Obsrvr

originally posted by: blupblup
a reply to: Obsrvr

Of course I did... but YOU mentioning screening is irrelevant because you're against the idea anyway.
You saying "oh yes with screening" like you'd be OK with it is disingenuous because your previous posts show you to be completely ignorant and prudish.

As you can't answer any of my other points I'll just stop trying to have a debate with you... you're clearly not up to it.



Did you bother looking at the graphic on that Wiki page? Users are properly screened from passersby in that little cubicle.

Is it too much to ask to show some respect for people around you?


Did you read the SF article that they plan to plant trees around the pisser"?


Where? In the picture it abuts a railroad track and on either side of it there is barely space to accommodate those bushes.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 03:11 PM
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I'm attacking your posts and your views - I don't know you at all, only have your posts to go by.
If you can't debate and just want to ignore the points and keep prattling on then that's cool.

"grrrr people pissing outside" *mumble mumble* "animals the lots of them"

Actually I'm surprised that they're not all flinging poo at each other, or drinking the urine you know... bllody filthy animals.






Most indoor urinals don't have screening either... so not sure what your point is?






posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 03:16 PM
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My point is that most people live and act like pigs.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 03:25 PM
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originally posted by: blupblup
Good on them! Don't really see the issue or problem or why it's even newsworthy?
Or is it because of the prudes?


Well change is newsworthy and for American society this is change.

To me it is a change to the order of things that we have developed in our society over time with purpose and learning.
This is like putting a urinal in the kitchen or a toilet in the livingroom.

The change can only grow from here to one restroom for all sexes for instance, a change my Wife will certainly be unhappy with.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 03:31 PM
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originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: blupblup
Good on them! Don't really see the issue or problem or why it's even newsworthy?
Or is it because of the prudes?


Well change is newsworthy and for American society this is change.

To me it is a change to the order of things that we have developed in our society over time with purpose and learning.
This is like putting a urinal in the kitchen or a toilet in the livingroom.

The change can only grow from here to one restroom for all sexes for instance, a change my Wife will certainly be unhappy with.


Not sure how an outdoor public urinal is akin to a urinal in a kitchen or living room. Don't see any correlation there whatsoever. Do you typically do your cooking on public streets? Providing affordable, cleaner solutions to disposing human waste is a positive alternative to pissing in the streets, imo. It's ironic how those who preach about civility seem to have no regard for issues facing the unwashed huddled masses. As long as you can sit on your high and mighty porcelain throne and be civilized, who cares about the people on the streets, right?
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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 03:43 PM
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So we can carry on having people piss against walls, alleys, in shop doorways and whatever else... OR we can build these cheap, easy places like many parts of the world do and let people do their business.


This is IF the persons who do their duty in the park bother to walk to the thing.
The cost 10k is rather high I think. We have a laughable problem in that the city charges it's self city permit fees and impact fees.
We Can Do Better!
We take our options we put our funds into what matters to us as a society. Here is a list of what it should be



Latest Trends in Restroom Structures
• Individual stall designs which provide space more fully private and
discourages illicit activities.
• ADA/Family stalls for “opposite sex caregivers.”
• External sinks maximizes public spaces while keeping the private spaces
fully private.
• Electronic surveillance that discourages vandalism and violence.
• Automatic magnetic door locks.
• Antimicrobial finishes containing colloidal silver ions on toilet seats; door
handles and grab bars to prevent the spread of germs.
• Low-flow and no-flush fixtures
• Solar Panels
Is there interest in applying any of these latest
trends to our restrooms in the future?


If you know anything of the various costs for various unneeded things the cities do you will think the cost of proper facilities which includes the reputation and goodwill gained from world wide visitors is low.

Here is an example of research by a large city in OR working to improve and build more restrooms. I am in California and it disgusts me that if I drive into the empty lands along a nearby river I find several of these where very few even visit, they are nice and clean and new.


www.slcdocs.com...



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 03:47 PM
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who cares about the people on the streets, right?

Clearly you are not hearing me, my issue is with caring, we all should care.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 03:51 PM
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originally posted by: Obsrvr
a reply to: blupblup

My point is that most people live and act like pigs.


Indeed. The worst kind of swine are those who feel superior and look down their noses at those less fortunate. We managed to "civilize" the Native Americans pretty well. Not sure why we can't civilize these dirty inner city homeless but we'll keep trying, by God.
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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 03:55 PM
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originally posted by: SeaWorthy
a reply to: Tuomptonite




who cares about the people on the streets, right?

Clearly you are not hearing me, my issue is with caring, we all should care.

I didn't see your last post before posting my reply. My apologies. I'm all for better ideas and like what yore saying in that last post. I agree the city can and should find a better solution. I guess my point is, it's better than the current alternative.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 05:41 PM
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how often does this culturally sensitive bathroom get a wash down? im guessing never! i cant even see the homeless using this, even they have standards!



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