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originally posted by: elliotmtl
Superdelegates have never voted against the popular vote. If Bernie won the popular vote there is no reason to think they would still vote for Hillary...it would be utterly unprecedented and destroy the illusion of democracy. The "Hillary won more superdelegates" idea is being spread by her campaign and supporting media interests in order to maintain the fiction that Bernie's campaign, and thus going out to vote for him, is futile. Pretty clever too, using the obscure complexity of the election process as a weapon against the new voters that are much more likely to be Bernie supporters than Hillary. I give her props for her campaign's A-plus deceitfulness!
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originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: AlaskanDad
“Unpledged delegates exist, really, to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don’t have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists”
Holy crap.
It's like these parties don't even try to look ethical anymore.
originally posted by: PsychoEmperor
originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: AlaskanDad
“Unpledged delegates exist, really, to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don’t have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists”
Holy crap.
It's like these parties don't even try to look ethical anymore.
What I always find amazing is how both parties get lumped in with things like this that are PRIMARILY a Democratic Party issue.
Don't get me wrong, the Republican Party are no saints, but only the Democratic Party would even think of a system where the Votes by the people don't matter.
Stop lumping everyone in just because you refuse to realize the Democratic Party is NOT the party of the people they claim to be.
"Sure we are bad, but the other guys are bad too!"
The DNC lined up superdelegates for Clinton before first debate
The DNC has helped the Clinton campaign subvert the Democratic process by going around the vote and courting party bosses, also known as superdelegates, to preemptively win the nomination before all 50 states have held their primary election. Superdelegates are part of the nomination process, and they are typically DNC leaders and current and former elected officials ranging from governors to members of US Congress.
In August, before the first Democratic debate had taken place, the Clinton campaign reported that she had one-fifth of superdelegates already committed to backing her at the 2016 Democratic National Convention. According to Wikipedia, roughly half of the 700+ superdelegates have already committed to backing Hillary Clinton.
While the remainder of the delegate count will be decided as each state hosts its primary election, the early superdelegate committal to the Clinton campaign is highly suspect, as the commitments come months before the first primary voters cast their ballots.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: HighFive
But those delegates are not set in stone and represent a small percentage of the 4,753 total delegates.
I would personally not classify 15% (1 in 7) as a small percentage.
Bernie could still grab those superdelegates that are currently being counted for Hillary.