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We should vote for who will help the country not our own ideology

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posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:01 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Now your just absurd.

Not a lot of rich people in new York or California.

That could be the most rediculous thing you have said today.

Both California and New York are in the top 3 states with the most millionaires.
edit on 12-2-2016 by luthier because: (no reason given)




posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: AlaskanDad

Business leave this country because it's cheaper to make goods cheaper 10,000 miles away than it is here 1 mile away from where a person lives.

Considering every single one of us are paying MORE for labor than what it actually costs to make those products.

Especially when technology does MOST of the work to make them.

Sanders and Clinton party, and their supporters need to get it through their heads.

They can not have their cake, and eat it too.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

I thought 8 years of Hope and Change were a raging success.


Well now according to you they have been. I mean didn't you just say we're better off now than ever before???

That's what I can't figure out. It seems we're being told that we're both worse off and better off now at the same time.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:04 PM
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It sounds like what you're saying is that we're screwed but if we try to do anything about it we'll be even more screwed. all I can say is "Screw that."



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:04 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

And then there is Bernie. I like many of Bernie's ideas but we have to be realistic. He will not be able to get anything done unless the Left can also take back congress. If the GOP continues to control congress Bernie will not be able to get squat done and is forced to work through EO's.


YES!

The way I see it, any change has to come from within the system. Someone(s) in the system has to make "waves and change".

Positive ideologies are great - - but, if you can't penetrate "the system" - - it's useless.

From the last paragraph of the Mother Jones article.



I guess that if you think we need to dream big dreams and the fuddy duddies ought to stand aside, you're more convinced than ever that Hillary is part of the problem, not part of the solution. If you have some respect for how hard the political process is, and how slowly progress is made, you're more convinced than ever that Bernie is talking through his hat and Hillary is the only reasonable choice. www.motherjones.com...



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:06 PM
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Yeah it's absurd!

Unsustainable California: The Top 10 Issues Facing the Golden State – Wall of Debt




At $617.6 billion, California had by far the biggest total debt, more than twice the total of No. 2, New York, with $300.1 billion owed, according to State Budget Solutions, a research and non-partisan advocacy group.


www.huffingtonpost.com...


Detroit bankruptcy

Them left wing delusions of champagne wishes, and caviar schemes all on a walmart 'paycheck'.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:07 PM
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It would seem that your logic is don't tax the rich or they will leave, if they want everything for free, as in tax free, why do we need them???

The 1% have taken greed to the point it is a deadly sin, there is no free market in hoarding trillions!

it is simply greed!




posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

Actually according to the left.

They are the ones trying to have it both ways.

Things were awesome under the current democrat.

But the next two that want the job say it's 'bad'.

So vote for them.

They will make everything 'right' as rain.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:08 PM
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You just said not a lot of rich people in those states with the highest number of rich people in them.

Do you know what goes into state debt? How long has California had a debt problem?

Did you know California is one of the world's largest economies.

It's all relative. But show some more scare tacticts taken out of context.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:09 PM
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It would seem that your logic is don't tax the rich or they will leave, if they want everything for free, as in tax free, why do we need them???


Not my logic.

People are expatriating by the droves.

www.cnbc.com...

I don't blame them either.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

Things were awesome under the current democrat.



Wow. So is that your final answer??



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: luthier

Did ya miss this?



At $617.6 billion, California had by far the biggest total debt,


Forget how DEBT get created ?

Spending more money than it takes in.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:12 PM
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How do these threads always deteriorate into a half dozen people arguing with one? Haha, it always seems to end up like this... I really need to start cultivating the skill of "Walk away." Neo, it's been fun.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:12 PM
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Thats funny many are expatriating to socialist countries.

Like the genius bill O'Reilly who is going to move to Ireland if we elect a socialist.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:15 PM
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It's the eighth largest economy in the world.

Besides I don't believe that figure for a second.

You must live in constant fear.

Too bad your Republican buddies create so much debt and civil rights degradation. Or you may have a foot to stand on.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: luthier

Yeah it is funny since 'foreigners' get better deals than THEIR OWN citizens.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: neo96

That makes no sense. So people are expatriating to socialist countries to escape liberal politics.

Do you ever stop to consider its the whole system that broken and is the reason peoe are leaving or are you that brainwashed you think Republicans are not just as much the problem.



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:30 PM
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Are you pointing out that the economy being in the Rothchild's pocket is a lunacy, that we should no longer be a part of that broken system.

Or are you just crying for austerity?



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:34 PM
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We should vote for who will help the country not our own ideology


That is why I created this thread Why as libertarian I would consider voting for Bernie Sanders



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 01:36 PM
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a reply to: neo96





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