The Truth of Sanders is That He Is a Socialist.

originally posted by: LS650
"The Truth of Sanders is That He Is a Socialist."

Um yeah. He calls himself a socialist.

You seem to equate being a socialist as something akin to a vampire or the walking undead.

I prefer 'parasite' but I guess they are the same things.

Sanders just said tonight that he will use EXECUTIVE ORDERS to grant amnesty to ALL Illegal Immigrants, in the debate.

That on TOP of a free meeting with Al Sharpton, the tax evading race huckster who LITERALLY incited mobs to get people KILLED.

There's your candidate "Socialists"...

Have fun with that.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

So how can you reduce corruption in government by making it bigger and giving it more tax money?

Well you might start by electing someone like a president who is also against that same corruption to run the thing for a while to try and stop some of it.

It's not about the taxes or size of it that makes much difference. If you shrunk it all the way down to just one dude sitting in the white house who controls our military would that fix everything??? After all it's just one guy so by your rationale by making it that small it should fix everything right???

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
The future of our planet will not be operating under capitalism.

There's no way this can keep going like it is.

Socialist government policies are why Western Capitalism has problems.

Simple as that.

Crystal Clear.

No, Corporatism is why why Western Capitalism has problems.

This is all brought to you by corporatists that infiltrated DC

Nafta
Gatt
Gafta
China Trade
Obamacare
Bank Bailouts
Rigged Stock Market
QE infinity
Corporate Welfare
Military Industrial Complex
TPP

Bilderberg and CFR Groups consist of the heads of Banks, Corporations and Politicians.
They do not want rule by the people, for the people and to the people but rule by Bankers and Corporate Heads

… It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
For the life of me, I do not understand the "Poor ass white boy support" of the Republicans, they are going to do nothing to make you life better.

Because voting for Democrats has really helped the minorities and inner cities, eh?

I am not saying that either, but the "redneck" support of the rupublicans truly bows my mind.

Poor ass white boy, redneck... nice. Gonna add 'white bread' or 'gomer' to that?

originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain

So by your logic, 90% of the work force could be "Government"...90% of the ownership...90% OF THE MEDIA...etc.etc.etc

How does one sustain that?

If it all worked correctly and without corruption YES I'd be totally fine with it. I'm not foolish enough to believe that it could ever be corruption free but if it was possible and would work like it was supposed to in theory then I'd be fine with it.

An ideal example of a truly operational and efficient Democratic Socialism style of society would be like Star Trek. I can think of a lot worse.

How old are you? Just curious

Sanders was one of the LEADERS on the "Jesse Jackson for President" Committee....he meets with SHARPTON the other day...

Sharpton???

And tonight it the debates he said that he will use "one of those Executive Orders" to grant AMNESTY to every Illegal Immigrant.

Nice!!!

Way to go Democrats!

a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

WTF difference does that make???

originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain

So by your logic, 90% of the work force could be "Government"...90% of the ownership...90% OF THE MEDIA...etc.etc.etc

How does one sustain that?

If it all worked correctly and without corruption YES I'd be totally fine with it. I'm not foolish enough to believe that it could ever be corruption free but if it was possible and would work like it was supposed to in theory then I'd be fine with it.

An ideal example of a truly operational and efficient Democratic Socialism style of society would be like Star Trek. I can think of a lot worse.

Gene Roddenberry has caused more damage to economic awareness than public school and that's saying a lot.

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
For the life of me, I do not understand the "Poor ass white boy support" of the Republicans, they are going to do nothing to make you life better.

Because voting for Democrats has really helped the minorities and inner cities, eh?

I am not saying that either, but the "redneck" support of the rupublicans truly bows my mind.

If "rednecks' support Republicans...couldn't it be logical that people EQUALLY as uninformed are on the LEFT?

I.E. "Bern" Victims?

I would agree with you that people on the left are equally uniformed. Unfortunately the "rednecks" that support the right, claim to be informed, I have to laugh my ass off. I make 20k a year, and live in a trailer with my wife and 20 kids, and I AM A REPUBLICAN. Seriously WTF?

a reply to: mOjOm

So you're okay with voting to give government more control.

What happens when, one day, you change your mind?

Government will never cede the control that you have given it.

Like I said, people can and will vote themselves into slavery.

Just don't expect me to join you.

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
For the life of me, I do not understand the "Poor ass white boy support" of the Republicans, they are going to do nothing to make you life better.

Because voting for Democrats has really helped the minorities and inner cities, eh?

I am not saying that either, but the "redneck" support of the rupublicans truly bows my mind.

Poor ass white boy, redneck... nice. Gonna add 'white bread' or 'gomer' to that?

I don't need to, you did it for me, still doesn't change my statement. I was raised and lived that way, and in some ways still do, but don't understand how anyone at my income level could support the republicans.

a reply to: greencmp

lol. It makes for a convenient albeit idealistic example. Yes I know it's only fiction. Yes I know it's a TV show. But as we all know there is no actual corruption free society for me to use as an example anywhere. So I used that. I figured you were all intelligent enough to realize that.

Should I have used Atlantis instead??? Or maybe our Lords Kingdom in Heaven perhaps??? Would that have worked better for you???

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: greencmp

lol. It makes for a convenient albeit idealistic example. Yes I know it's only fiction. Yes I know it's a TV show. But as we all know there is no actual corruption free society for me to use as an example anywhere. So I used that. I figured you were all intelligent enough to realize that.

Should I have used Atlantis instead??? Or maybe our Lords Kingdom in Heaven perhaps??? Would that have worked better for you???

I do like Star Trek too.

I have seriously considered writing a book on the subject as the genre is big and should be enough to derive plenty of examples of erroneous postulates.

What I discovered was that there are no actual explanations, they simply skip completely over the how. This is hardly surprising given that it is utopian fiction.

Before tonight I thought that Bernie was just a nice, compassionate MISLEAD politician with his heart in the right place, but wrong policy.

I see now he's a scumbag traitor.

Not even one ounce of respect left for him

He's vile

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
For the life of me, I do not understand the "Poor ass white boy support" of the Republicans, they are going to do nothing to make you life better.

Because voting for Democrats has really helped the minorities and inner cities, eh?

I am not saying that either, but the "redneck" support of the rupublicans truly bows my mind.

If "rednecks' support Republicans...couldn't it be logical that people EQUALLY as uninformed are on the LEFT?

I.E. "Bern" Victims?

I would agree with you that people on the left are equally uniformed. Unfortunately the "rednecks" that support the right, claim to be informed, I have to laugh my ass off. I make 20k a year, and live in a trailer with my wife and 20 kids, and I AM A REPUBLICAN. Seriously WTF?

Ok, this works for roping in support from the dumb, poor hick folk for a reason -- because religion.
Have you not noticed how the stumping from the repubs is laced with religious bullchit? Because they're pandering squarely to the religious right, whom as of late have some of the worst "grass roots heros" examples going for them. Not the brightest are going to be on that bandwagon.
It's kind of like watching a self-fufilling Idiocracy prediction in motion.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I'm not voting them to have control. I'm voting for them to work for us like they're supposed to do.

They already take our money, start wars in our name we don't want, pass laws that hurt us but help them and their masters and friends, etc.

I want them to work for us, for the people of this country, not for Israel, or the Saudis or for Corporate/Banking/Wall St. Moguls, or even for themselves. They should be working for us.

If that isn't possible, then they shouldn't be there. So I guess I'm basically just one step back from where you are now. I'm giving it one last shot. If that fails then go ahead and sign me up for your "Take down the Government War Party". How's that??

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
For the life of me, I do not understand the "Poor ass white boy support" of the Republicans, they are going to do nothing to make you life better.

Because voting for Democrats has really helped the minorities and inner cities, eh?

I am not saying that either, but the "redneck" support of the rupublicans truly bows my mind.

If "rednecks' support Republicans...couldn't it be logical that people EQUALLY as uninformed are on the LEFT?

I.E. "Bern" Victims?

I would agree with you that people on the left are equally uniformed. Unfortunately the "rednecks" that support the right, claim to be informed, I have to laugh my ass off. I make 20k a year, and live in a trailer with my wife and 20 kids, and I AM A REPUBLICAN. Seriously WTF?

Ok, this works for roping in support from the dumb, poor hick folk for a reason -- because religion.
Have you not noticed how the stumping from the repubs is laced with religious bullchit? Because they're pandering squarely to the religious right, whom as of late have some of the worst "grass roots heros" examples going for them. Not the brightest are going to be on that bandwagon.
It's kind of like watching a self-fufilling Idiocracy prediction in motion.

Is that as dangerous as those on the Left who are on video plastered all over YouTube looking like complete whacked out KOOKS who have no idea about who they support, why, where, safe spaces, trigger warning, and even videos of Leftists signing petitions to ban free speech...or other shocking and imbecilic things?

Rednecks might be bad, but almost our entire "Academia" is filled with moronic robots that Bernie is some savior because he spoke about College being free.

Stop pretending that the "Left" holds the mantle of intelligence. From where I sit many of YOUR SIDE are flat out scary imbeciles with no grasp of history or reality.

But yeah, "rednecks"

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain
Before tonight I thought that Bernie was just a nice, compassionate MISLEAD politician with his heart in the right place, but wrong policy.

I see now he's a scumbag traitor.

Not even one ounce of respect left for him

He's vile

BS, you were talking the same sh*t about him last week endlessly. I can pull up the thread if you'd like to read it.

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain

originally posted by: BubbaJoe

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: BubbaJoe
For the life of me, I do not understand the "Poor ass white boy support" of the Republicans, they are going to do nothing to make you life better.

Because voting for Democrats has really helped the minorities and inner cities, eh?

I am not saying that either, but the "redneck" support of the rupublicans truly bows my mind.

If "rednecks' support Republicans...couldn't it be logical that people EQUALLY as uninformed are on the LEFT?

I.E. "Bern" Victims?

I would agree with you that people on the left are equally uniformed. Unfortunately the "rednecks" that support the right, claim to be informed, I have to laugh my ass off. I make 20k a year, and live in a trailer with my wife and 20 kids, and I AM A REPUBLICAN. Seriously WTF?

Ok, this works for roping in support from the dumb, poor hick folk for a reason -- because religion.
Have you not noticed how the stumping from the repubs is laced with religious bullchit? Because they're pandering squarely to the religious right, whom as of late have some of the worst "grass roots heros" examples going for them. Not the brightest are going to be on that bandwagon.
It's kind of like watching a self-fufilling Idiocracy prediction in motion.

Yep have noticed that as well, I was tied up in that fundamentalist BS for a while. Finally woke up, and realized all that those douche weasels wanted was my money. I am truly fed up with the Republicans, and don't like Hillary, so Bernie is the only choice left for me. If the Republicans do not put Kasich up as a candidate, they have truly lost their minds, he is the only one that may appeal to both sides.