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The Truth of Sanders is That He Is a Socialist.

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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: greencmp

Actually that transference is what I think of as a strength.

If in the future 75% of traditional jobs in a economy we have now will gone then a a new way to create and and pay jobs will be needed.

The point of a 100% energy dependent economy is that jobs will center around transferring engery into useful energy.
Very easy to do and one could Easly make enough to at least cover there food production costs.

Plus it's a economy were you only get the effort you put in.

Put in useful energy you take out.


Money is simply an intermediate commodity for the enablement of indirect interpersonal exchange. It affords people a way to overcome the limitations of direct barter.

Catallactic calculation can only occur in a market economy, whatever form of currency is chosen.




posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Well if socialists really cared about their 'fellow' man.

Why do they consistently outsource that 'responsibility' to the state that uses authoritarianism for the 'common good' ?

Instead of them doing things on their own.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 01:36 PM
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a reply to: neo96

You didn't watch the video, did you. ?????


Well if socialists really cared about their 'fellow' man.

Why do they consistently outsource that 'responsibility' to the state that uses authoritarianism for the 'common good' ?

Instead of them doing things on their own.


Plus, I have no idea what you are talking about in this above declaration.

As far as I can tell, Sarah did those things on her own.
So, is she wrong and bad for that?

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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 01:37 PM
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And Green and Crazy ?

No on using energy as 'money'.

Same thing as FIAT CURRENCY

Since it can be easily created.

That's why precious metals were one of the best options.

Their resources are finite.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 01:42 PM
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What's Bernie's plan to get manufacturing jobs back to America?

(not waiters and bartenders)

I bet most of his "plans" will scare companies so bad, they'll flock to Mexico.




posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 01:46 PM
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Is anyone looking at what's happening? The Democrats are moving further to the left and the Republicans further to the right.
What are they aiming for? - A Republican form of Democracy or a reenactment of the Civil War
It's crazy



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 01:47 PM
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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 01:48 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

When GM was going under, the government bailed them out and became "partners" with them.

What's to stop Comrade Bern from opening his own government plants?



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen




What's Bernie's plan to get manufacturing jobs back to America?


Tax the rich to pay for free college. Even though they won't have a job when they graduate.

Tax the rich some more to pay for 'infrastructure'. That will be built with machinery made in China, and a bailout to union construction workers since ALL civil projects are unionized.

Tax the rich some more to pay for the employment benefit those students who just graduated, and the rest to pay for food stamps, and other government benefits.

Which I have dubbed 'Champagne wishes, and Caviar schemes on a walmart paycheck.
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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 01:50 PM
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When GM was going under, the government bailed them out and became "partners" with them.


Wasn't that union bailout awesome ?

And our government FORCED them to make an electric car that cost over a $100 grand to produce that sold for less than half.

Yay!

Socialism!
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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: xuenchen

When GM was going under, the government bailed them out and became "partners" with them.

What's to stop Comrade Bern from opening his own government plants?


And since trade unions are more aligned with corporativism/syndicalism than socialism proper, it presents an 'either or' that does not include constitutional republicanism.

If a backlash to socialism comes from the middle class, it will be in the form of fascism.

The descent into totalitarianism seems unavoidable at this point.
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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 01:59 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
And Green and Crazy ?

No on using energy as 'money'.

Same thing as FIAT CURRENCY

Since it can be easily created.

That's why precious metals were one of the best options.

Their resources are finite.


No it can't be created.

Only transferred from one state to another.

Problem with precious metals is that they won't be precious when we get to space mining .

Plus again it's only a abstract intermediate.

Engery is pretty much the most pure form of currency as the amount of energy needed to produce, extract or transport something normally determines its worth.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 02:01 PM
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a reply to: greencmp

Which begs the questions ?

Does anyone really think unions will give up their Cadillac plans, and benefits in favor of 'socialism'.

They have billion, and quite a bit of political power to lose.

I sure don't.

The prime motivating factor of a union is GREED, and it's own self interest.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 02:03 PM
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Problem with precious metals is that they won't be precious when we get to space mining .


I don't foresee that happening. Platinum,Palladium,Gold, and Silver will be replaced with something new.

Remember it's the rarity of those metals that make them 'worth' something.

Kind like Quarks Gold Pressed Latnum in our future.
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posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 02:03 PM
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a reply to: greencmp

Totalitarianism is almost a certainty at this point.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 02:12 PM
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A totally true Socialist currency will be based on ....

Fool's Gold




posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 02:13 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: neo96
And Green and Crazy ?

No on using energy as 'money'.

Same thing as FIAT CURRENCY

Since it can be easily created.

That's why precious metals were one of the best options.

Their resources are finite.


No it can't be created.

Only transferred from one state to another.

Problem with precious metals is that they won't be precious when we get to space mining .

Plus again it's only a abstract intermediate.

Engery is pretty much the most pure form of currency as the amount of energy needed to produce, extract or transport something normally determines its worth.


Value is subjectively determined by the demand for a good or service at any given moment and is always fluctuating.

Value is never absolutely determinable nor constant and is not based on the cost of production. That's why the price of a good produced can fall below its production cost. There is still capital invested in those goods so loss associated with malinvestment can be minimized by liquidation but not eliminated.

Speculators are the only counter to precipitous drops because, at some point, they recognize the disparity and begin to acquire the undervalued goods thus halting the fall.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 02:16 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: crazyewok




Problem with precious metals is that they won't be precious when we get to space mining .


I don't foresee that happening. Platinum,Palladium,Gold, and Silver will be replaced with something new.

Remember it's the rarity of those metals that make them 'worth' something.

Kind like Quarks Gold Pressed Latnum in our future.





posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 02:19 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
A totally true Socialist currency will be based on ....

Fool's Gold






posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 02:29 PM
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Funny that Sanders sounds an aweful lot like this guy.




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