Nato Fleet Deployed To Help Stop Refugees Leaving Turkey

The placement of NATO warships in the Aegean Sea is likely to bottle the Russian Navy in the Black Sea by blocking their transit via the Bosporus - the only way out for their Fleet based at Crimea. Remember Russia's seizure of the Crimean from Ukraine?

a reply to: Leonidas

The Bosporus could be closed to Russian shipping without sticking any NATO warships in situ.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: NobodiesNormal

Americans won't be mass rapid women and stabbing people.

uhm, i think you meant raping? to which i must strongly disagree, you forget that america has the highest incarceration rate in the world, we verifiably have MORE criminals by percentage then ALL the countries of earth, including the middle east, so you are very very wrong, there WILL be many americans raping and stabbing people.
this knee jerk belief that americans are morally superior to muslims is bull#, its lies, its propaganda, by percentage america has MORE rapists robbers thiefs burglars you name it we have more by percentage then middle eastern countries, then anywhere on earth, you only believe that your fellow nationals are morally superior because that is the racist propaganda line thats been promulgated over the television for decades now, but it isnt true, its just another case of the media taking a play out of hitlers books to repeat a lie enough times for long enough and people like you will begin believing it.

originally posted by: NobodiesNormal
you forget that america has the highest incarceration rate in the world,

Actually, that's not correct. The Seychelles has more and there are a bunch of nations in the same "per capita" zone as the US.

We need to separate nations from religion.

So, comparing Americans to Muslims is nonsense, because you cannot compare a country to a religious movement. A better comparison would be to compare Christians, Hindus, or atheists to Muslims. That is. comparing different belief systems and how they influence actions.

Also bear in mind when quoting statistics. If anything characterises the developed world it is the collection of statistics. In the un-developed world there are less civil institutions to - for example - record instances of rape. Indeed, in some undeveloped countries women who have the courage to report rape are pilloried and isolated, as is often the case in counties that treat women and girls as second class, such as in Muslim dominated countries.

Generally, in countries that have a Christian legacy the experiences are somewhat better for the common man and woman, versus counties that are predominantly Muslim. Certainly, women’s and girl's rights are much worse in counties where the Muslim religion holds sway, versus the liberal and secular West.

Similarly, comparing the judicial systems in Western nations which have developed over the millennia, and been shaped by democracy and precedent to Sharia Law is bonkers. Sharia is fixed in time and highly discriminatory to women, with medieval tariffs for petty “offenses” like adultery, apostasy and homosexuality etc. English Law, as an example of a Western approach has evolved and adapted through time. I would rather be tried by a jury of my peers with an independent judge and appropriate legal representation, than by a cleric fixated on a set of rules laid down many centuries ago. Which one would you rather be tried under?