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Cleveland files claim against Tamir Rice's family over unpaid ambulance bill

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posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 04:39 AM
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The city of Cleveland wants the family of a 12-year-old boy shot and killed by police officers in November 2014 to cover the cost of the ambulance that took him to the hospital.

The $500 claim against the family of Tamir Rice for "ambulance advance life support" and mileage expenses was filed Wednesday in Cuyahoga County Probate Court.

Rice was shot and killed on Nov. 22, 2014 in a park on the city's West Side. A passerby noticed him playing with a replica airsoft pistol and called police.


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Just how cold hearted can someone be? First the police gun down and murder a 12 year old young man while playing with a toy gun and now the city wants their family to pay $500.00 for ambulance and mileage costs?

IMO this is going off the deep end and we all should voice our opinion to the local Cleveland authorities, starting with the mayor's office. Just how much abuse should we take from these sick bastards who run our government?




posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 04:44 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

What, Obamadontcare doesnt cover it?

Anyway this is just the system. Even CC companies are sending messages to family from deaceased people with messages saying to pay off the deceased CC debt in honor of the deceased when they cannot legaly press those family members to pay for it.

This is the same as a unpaid parking ticked for your recently deceased partner. Nothing really malicious about it but it is of course a very grimm thing i agree.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 04:46 AM
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originally posted by: everyone
a reply to: DeathSlayer

What, Obamadontcare doesnt cover it?

Anyway this is just the system. Even CC companies are sending messages to family from deaceased people with messages saying to pay off the deceased CC debt in honor of the deceased when they cannot legaly press those family members to pay for it.

This is the same as a unpaid parking ticked for your recently deceased partner. Nothing really malicious about it but it is of course a very grimm thing i agree.


The city MURDERED a young boy..... then the city wants his family to pay for the ambulance and you don't see a problem here?

People like you are part of the problem.........




posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 04:48 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

Sounds like something gofundme could perhaps assist with.

As for the council seeking reimbursement, you should be ashamed of yourselves, this will undoubtedly now be part of the memory the family has for the slain child.




posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 04:50 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

After the city paid me a few million after I sued them into bankruptcy, I still wouldn't pay it.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 04:58 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

What........you expected cops to actually have a heart?

Nope. They are low IQ automotons.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 04:59 AM
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Youbeven have to pay for ambulances in the USA?



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 05:03 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Yup. Even after the cops roll up on your son playing with his gun (I don't care if it was real or not) and instantly shoot him dead.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 05:03 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

Now you are putting words into my mouth, why? Where did i say i do not have a problem with this? I said in fact that it is indeed very grimm.

You say the city murdered the boy. That will only be a legal fact if a court had decided this was a act of murder. If this has not happened then there is no murder to speak off and thus no acountablility on the city ,legaly speaking, your personal opinion has no bearing on this and neither does mine (i also agree that that boy was was wronged and court should have ruled it a murder to some degree at least).And so as long as this was not a murder in any legal term then the system will proceed as it usually will.That is what i said.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 05:05 AM
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originally posted by: IslandOfMisfitToys
a reply to: DeathSlayer

What........you expected cops to actually have a heart?

Nope. They are low IQ automotons.


Thats like saying all black people are gettho thugs and all mexicans are bean eaters.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 05:19 AM
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originally posted by: everyone

originally posted by: IslandOfMisfitToys
a reply to: DeathSlayer

What........you expected cops to actually have a heart?

Nope. They are low IQ automotons.


Thats like saying all black people are gettho thugs and all mexicans are bean eaters.


Prove the statement that they are low IQ automotons incorrect. You can't. .......that is what they hire for. It's in court documents.

Just once show me a whistle-blower cop who didn't get railroaded out of the system (or worse) and I might start believing they are the "good guys".




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posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 05:29 AM
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originally posted by: everyone
a reply to: DeathSlayer

Now you are putting words into my mouth, why? Where did i say i do not have a problem with this? I said in fact that it is indeed very grimm.

You say the city murdered the boy. That will only be a legal fact if a court had decided this was a act of murder. If this has not happened then there is no murder to speak off and thus no acountablility on the city ,legaly speaking, your personal opinion has no bearing on this and neither does mine (i also agree that that boy was was wronged and court should have ruled it a murder to some degree at least).And so as long as this was not a murder in any legal term then the system will proceed as it usually will.That is what i said.


You attempt to speak as if you are a lawyer and this is not about law but about morals .... something BASIC law should be based upon. Morals has little to do with religion so lets leave religion out of this thread....

This young boy's human rights were violated. By allowing this type of act to be ignored by the public will only reinforce the position of law enforcement that killing young children and other unarmed people as acceptable and it will remain this way until the PEOPLE stand and shout STOP.

I think there should be a NEW and BETTER organization, larger and better funded with lobbyist with massive support in news and radio that can stop this type of murder. A petition is not good enough, we need to make examples of government officials who allow this type of behavior within their cities and states. If a few million people got together and fired enough of them better yet impeach them and run them out of town....then the replacements will understand what we will or will not tolerate.

That is what I miss about the early days of man.......less government control, no one is above the law (today there are millions above the law), let everyone carry a gun on this world and watch how crime disappears.......

We have become a world of yes men......

I better shut up before I get banned.......

EDIT LATER: There are millions above the law.......it is called diplomatic immunity.



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posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 06:57 AM
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originally posted by: everyone
a reply to: DeathSlayer

What, Obamadontcare doesnt cover it?

Anyway this is just the system. Even CC companies are sending messages to family from deaceased people with messages saying to pay off the deceased CC debt in honor of the deceased when they cannot legaly press those family members to pay for it.

This is the same as a unpaid parking ticked for your recently deceased partner. Nothing really malicious about it but it is of course a very grimm thing i agree.


No obamacare dont cover it because that would proberbly have been veto'ed by the cons if it was suggested, bloody hell it should be just as free to get transported to a hospital as it is free to get shot by the police, or did they get billed for the cost of transporting the cops to the scene and the bullets spend too?, what a absolutely #ed up system!



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 07:00 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
Youbeven have to pay for ambulances in the USA?


Lol yeah what a fantastic place to live right?



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 09:22 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

It is morbid but was probably done automatically. An ambulance was called. They deserve payment for services provided regardless if you believe Tamir was at fault or the Cleveland police. The ambulance service and their payment is completely independent of that issue.

Most companies, governments, have automated accounts payable programs. A service is rendered and then they send a bill to who customarily pays it. There isn't anyone looking at each and every bill trying to assess the back story and determine if the bill should be sent.

It isn't being done out of spite or anything.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 09:29 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Nope! It is just lovely. I almost died in a car wreck in 2014. I have recieved over 650,000$ in bills since then. Most of it just being a few days time in the ICU and about 80,000$ for a flight for life ride.
Granted my injury was bad enough at least insurance did help a bit after i hit a high number for max out of pocket.

But its a new year now. And those bills still come.


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posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 09:33 PM
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Hold on one single minute here

You guys pay directly for your ambulances?

What happens if you're poor, don't have insurance, get shot, and need an ambulance to take you to hospital?

What happens then? What happens if you can't pay the bill?

Also, what happens when a tourist gets injured and needs emergency treatment? Like, if I were to go to the US and annoy some crack dealers and get myself shot, what would happen? Would I need to pay $120,000 to get patched up? Would they just leave me to die?

I'm seriously asking, I'd love to visit the US one day but I am a bit worried about your multitude of guns and glaring lack of accessible healthcare, that seems like a bad combination.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 10:28 PM
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a reply to: Volchitsa

Na they still treat you.

But tyen hound you with bills and debt collecters after.

If you have travel insurance tyen it will cover the bills. Ans its only £30 to pick up for 2 weeks cover.


Plus US healthcare bill become next to impossible to collect overseas.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 11:33 PM
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Just in case no one said it yet, the Mayor already fixed it, no claim any more.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 11:37 PM
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originally posted by: Volchitsa
Hold on one single minute here

You guys pay directly for your ambulances?

What happens if you're poor, don't have insurance, get shot, and need an ambulance to take you to hospital?

What happens then? What happens if you can't pay the bill?

Also, what happens when a tourist gets injured and needs emergency treatment? Like, if I were to go to the US and annoy some crack dealers and get myself shot, what would happen? Would I need to pay $120,000 to get patched up? Would they just leave me to die?

I'm seriously asking, I'd love to visit the US one day but I am a bit worried about your multitude of guns and glaring lack of accessible healthcare, that seems like a bad combination.


Well the good thing is that you wouldn't be left there to die.

The bad part is that if you can't pay for your ambulance ride or health care bills then your credit score would tank and would ruin you financially for the next 20 or so years
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