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Government Panel Recommends Depression Screening For Adolescents

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posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: Blueracer
Unfortunately, people who do not want to do this will be called traitors and terrorists by some other americans. As we've seen, no matter the reason that you defy the government, other people will name call you and try to shame you into complying because they swallow the government's side of the argument.



Constitutional "literalist" disorder.




posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 12:22 PM
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The only reason the constitution exists is to avoid crap like this.

Our founders watched as things just like this were done in England, France, Germany, Spain, over the years.

They figured it would be a nice idea to have a country where the people were stronger than the govt, and could say no.

Didn't help us much with O'Care, gay marriage, bailouts, and so on over the last 7 years. But this election still holds a modicum of hope.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 12:53 PM
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I'm sort of on the fence about these type of things.

On one hand, I'm not sure it's completely wrong.

How many mass shootings has to do with people who were on pills or mentally unstable?

Now, if you are truly diagnosed as having "Depression", is it not right to disallow weapon purchase of that particular individual?

I'm actually Pro-Gun, not a gun control freak, but there are just things that I don't agree with. This, maybe getting close...

On one hand, I believe in the Bill of Rights. I believe in the having the right to keep and bear arms, is absolutely an individual right that the government cannot infringe upon.

However, on the other hand, there are things I don't agree with such as:

"Castle Doctrine"

"Brady Bill Loop Hole"

"Doing absolutely nothing to improve the mental illness screening process"

I don't know, sometimes I feel that people can get too passionate about a subject and just draw the line on the sand too goddamn early and begin to condemn ANY suggestions as bad.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: truthseeker84

As with anything, the devil is in the details.

In order to be able to make any determination of competence, individual rights must first be cast asunder.

In order to keep track of those determinations, a registry must be maintained.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: Informer1958

Only thing in this country making me "depressed" is the rampant leftist mindset destroying it. So hey lets do something constructive, lets screen them!



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 01:33 PM
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Well, the thing is, when I purchased my firearm, I did go through all the background checks and mental stability check.

But the mental stability check part was kind of retarded in a way. What I mean, is that all they do is check for mental illness medical records and history. If you don't have it, then you're good to go.

That, doesn't mean that I'm not mentally ill today or tomorrow...

Perhaps, they should do it in a way, where you go through a series of test first to determine if you are sane and not mentally ill in any way. Then subsequently, firearm owners must go through mandatory annual training, maybe once or twice about firearm safety and the such. Then on top of that, annual screening of mental stability.

I don't know, I'm not sure if I'm correct to say that, but I just feel that we should keep and bear arms. Even Open Carry, I'm for it. Conceal Carry, yes please, Open Carry? Why not?



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: JimNasium I got the same ad on Feb 11th, so I think it's for the thread.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 01:43 PM
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originally posted by: truthseeker84
Well, the thing is, when I purchased my firearm, I did go through all the background checks and mental stability check.

But the mental stability check part was kind of retarded in a way. What I mean, is that all they do is check for mental illness medical records and history. If you don't have it, then you're good to go.

That, doesn't mean that I'm not mentally ill today or tomorrow...

Perhaps, they should do it in a way, where you go through a series of test first to determine if you are sane and not mentally ill in any way. Then subsequently, firearm owners must go through mandatory annual training, maybe once or twice about firearm safety and the such. Then on top of that, annual screening of mental stability.

I don't know, I'm not sure if I'm correct to say that, but I just feel that we should keep and bear arms. Even Open Carry, I'm for it. Conceal Carry, yes please, Open Carry? Why not?



Typical backwards Kalifornian thinking. I declare you mentally unstable.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: justdust
a reply to: JimNasium I got the same ad on Feb 11th, so I think it's for the thread.




Okay, great.. I thought I was 'going nuts' (pun intended). hahaha


Edit: Because I really like the 1st Amendment than I have to get behind ALL of them, and also because I've fallen into the "don't fix it if it isn't broken or even throw $$$ at 'it' to see" category than leave it alone. The way things are now spun to some "agenda" if'n You don't step back and take a look-see then You are "nuts" but this type of thinking now falls under being on some "Foe List" and hopefully You don't end up on some "Do Not Fly List" because some under qualified, poorly trained pedophile groped You at the airport and because You have $$$ You got an attorney after getting arrested. Part of the "plea bargain" to keep You out of the 'privately run prisons' was "Court Mandated Counseling" or cmc¥ on Your insurance form of insurance that You HAD to buy. This cost You $3,500.00 out-of-pocket. Then Your court appointed "shrink" thinks You are "mentally unstable" and should NEVER own a firearm.. But don't let THAT stop Ya...

namaste
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posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: BrianFlanders


Sluggish schizophrenia was the most infamous of diagnoses used by Soviet psychiatrists, due to its usage against political dissidents. After being discharged from a hospital, persons diagnosed with sluggish schizophrenia were deprived of their civic rights, employability, and credibility. The usage of this diagnosis has been internationally condemned.

In the Russian version of the 10th revision of the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD-10), which has long been used throughout present-day Russia, sluggish schizophrenia is no longer listed as a form of schizophrenia, but it is still included as a schizotypal disorder in section F21 of chapter V.


en.wikipedia.org...

Thank you for posting this. I had no idea this was used to deprive people of their civic rights.

Simply amazing, of how corrupt some psychiatrist are and will do anything to help a Tyrannical government. I am sure they were paid very well.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 03:04 PM
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a reply to: reddragon2015


but health insurance should include psychiatric health too.


I agree.

The cost of psychiatric is staggering when paying out of pocket. This is something that I never did understand is why does private insurance do not have a plan to cover the cost?



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 03:16 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse


This will be a tool to brand political opponents as having "mental illness" and abolish some, or all of our rights...

The meaning of "mental illness" has changed to include anyone who the elite want to control and disagree with the elitist/globalist views...


Exactly! The US government has torn a page out of Russia political game in controlling Americans who speak out against a Tyrannical government. Once you are branded mental ill, no one will pay any attention to you.


Sluggish schizophrenia


Sluggish schizophrenia was the most infamous of diagnoses used by Soviet psychiatrists, due to its usage against political dissidents. After being discharged from a hospital, persons diagnosed with sluggish schizophrenia were deprived of their civic rights, employability, and credibility. The usage of this diagnosis has been internationally condemned.

In the Russian version of the 10th revision of the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD-10), which has long been used throughout present-day Russia, sluggish schizophrenia is no longer listed as a form of schizophrenia, but it is still included as a schizotypal disorder in section F21 of chapter V.


en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: reddragon2015


but health insurance should include psychiatric health too.


I agree.

The cost of psychiatric is staggering when paying out of pocket. This is something that I never did understand is why does private insurance do not have a plan to cover the cost?


Your original source doesn't actually have a link to a bill or to the task force or the recommendations. It makes the whole thing sound like they're going to line everyone up and march them into buildings, right?

That's not the case.

BTW, most doctors are screening their patients now for depression... by asking "how are you feeling?" and "are you having trouble sleeping, etc?" and so forth. They rely on YOU to say "yes, I'm having problems" or "no I'm not" and don't give you any testing unless you ask for it - and then they refer you elsewhere.

If you see a new doctor/change doctors, you'll probably get a question about "are you depressed", etc.

BUT...what the task force (here's their home page) recommends is entirely different than what the Ron Paul website says it recommends.

They say (for adults) screening is a useful tool AND that there are some situations (postpartum depression) where you should screen early to prevent this AND that not all antidepressants are effective and that if someone has a diagnosis of depression, they should be regularly screened to make sure that the meds aren't making them worse. They also think that the elderly should be checked (depression that's untreated in the elderly can be mistaken for Alzheimers). They recommend the forms that the doctors are using right now.

...and that the health care program should pay for this.

They recommend screening kids between age 12 and 17 because that's when depression often manifests or can take a turn for the worse. Here's their statement

No law, no task force in camo and armored vests. Just instructions to physicians, as far as I can see.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 05:35 PM
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a reply to: Informer1958

Alas...I am still waiting for mandatory Micro-Chip implants and death panels...



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 05:37 PM
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originally posted by: Byrd


BUT...what the task force (here's their home page) recommends is entirely different than what the Ron Paul website says it recommends.



If the OP actually cared what the task force "actually said" they would have provided it!

Thus the "Townhall" link..

get with the program....Microchips and Death panels for all!
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posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 06:37 PM
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a reply to: Informer1958

Some of us knew this kind of stuff was going to happen. Remember that socialism is communism lite. It's going to get a lot worse unless theres a Revolution as Glenn Beck thinks we are on the verge.



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 06:46 PM
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a reply to: Byrd

I hear what you are saying, but I am seeing the possibility of a slippery slope kind of thing which can eventually degenerate into something more aggressive. I mean, when my son was in the 7th grade the govt mandated Hep B vaccines for all public schools and even private Catholic parochial schools, which my son was in. We fought it by opting out using a form declaring exemption due to religion. That worked till we moved to another locale and put him in a supposedly state of the art public school and again the mandate for Hep B came up and we basically did not have the fight to fight it a second time. Look at the Gardisil thing too.... By the way Hep B was the original tainted vaccine containing AIDS virus which was given to test patients in New York....
I think they are testing the waters then later when more stuff starts coming down the pike they will crack down.... sure as 1984 was written as prophetic vision.

Mandates don't have to come with Martial Law and military guys toting guns in every household, it can come more subtly...


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posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 06:54 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Did your son get Hep B?
Or were there adverse affects from it?



posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 06:58 PM
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a reply to: Informer1958


The cost of psychiatric is staggering when paying out of pocket.

No - not if you go to a Community Mental Health Clinic - then you get care for $0.......
or whatever minimum you'd like to pay.

You can pay $10, or $3, or $0. No One is refused treatment. You can pay fifty cents one time, and nothing the next.


This is something that I never did understand is why does private insurance do not have a plan to cover the cost?

Because they get away with it.

Psychriatric care is available all over the country, no one gets turned away from non-profit Mental Health Clinics or State-Funded general hospitals.

See? There you go.......INSURANCE is the problem.
Because, health care is available. You can definitely get health care. regardless of your ability to pay.

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posted on Feb, 11 2016 @ 07:04 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

You actually take Glenn Beck seriously, don't you!!???

Wow.
sad.




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