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Black/Latino Voters, Who Do You Support?

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posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 10:33 PM
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Let's really look into what the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary results mean for democrats.

Iowa is largely white.



White alone, percent, 2014 -- 92.1%
Black or African American alone, percent, 2014 -- 3.4%


Iowa Census Data

New Hampshire is largely white.



White alone, percent, 2014 -- 94.0%
Black or African American alone, percent, 2014 -- 1.5%


New Hampshire Census Data

Some sources appear to believe Hillary has a strong handle on ethnic groups that will make it very difficult for Bernie to grab the nomination.

Presidential Election Poll 2016: Hillary Holds Lead Among Blacks, Latinos; Sanders Winning White Vote

South Carolina Is First Big Test For Sanders Among Black Voters

Although I do not support either Hillary or Bernie, I am interested to see if these statistics are reflective of the ATS membership of the same demographic (although, to be honest, I am not sure what percentage of ATS members identify other than white).

Please chime in even if you support one of the republican candidates. I found these statistics more interesting from the point of view of democrats, but I am open to hear any point of view.




posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 11:46 PM
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Just a head's up: we're very diverse people. This would be like asking "White/European-American Voters, Who Do You Support?". However, I'll answer anyway.


I'm supporting Bernie, as is my Mom. My Dad's supporting Hillary, which isn't surprising since he even supported Hillary against Sen. Obama. I haven't asked my siblings yet. If Bernie doesn't get the Democratic nomination, I'll probably vote Green Party or some fringe socialist candidate. Can't stand Hillary or the "Third Way" Democrats.



posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 11:51 PM
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originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Just a head's up: we're very diverse people. This would be like asking "White/European-American Voters, Who Do You Support?". However, I'll answer anyway.


I'm supporting Bernie, as is my Mom. My Dad's supporting Hillary, which isn't surprising since he even supported Hillary against Sen. Obama. I haven't asked my siblings yet. If Bernie doesn't get the Democratic nomination, I'll probably vote Green Party or some fringe socialist candidate. Can't stand Hillary or the "Third Way" Democrats.


Thanks for the candid response.


The media would have us believe although ethnic groups are diverse in their political stance, they strongly favor Hillary (and democrats over republicans, etc.).

I am really just trying to get a demographic sampling, politically and of ATS.
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posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 12:04 AM
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a reply to: ExNihiloRed

No problem. The media simply can't be trusted with this election cycle, particularly the Democratic establishment. They're literally doing everything they can to win this for Hillary. If you check out the major left wing sites, you'll see exactly what I mean. It's pretty much an open "civil war" between Bernie supporters and Hillary supporters.

There are a lot of African Americans who remember the Clintons & the ways they've hurt our communities w/the mandatory minimum sentencing laws, welfare reform laws, and much more. And there are a lot of others, like myself, who simply prefer Bernie's plans and ideas. If anything, I'd assume that a lot who don't care about politics will initially support Hillary; though that support will probably fade the more they hear Bernie.

Edit to Add: I haven't asked my siblings who they support, though my older brother openly "supports" Trump. LOL Ok, he's actually trolling & wants Trump to keep destroying the Repubs from within. But still, he seems to genuinely enjoy it when Trump makes the right wing's leaders squirm. I think he said he'd vote for any Dem against Trump, but still wants Trump to get the nominee.
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posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 01:30 AM
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Da Burn, and while it's in my own bubble most of my Fb friends , including whites and other heady mix of people I know.. I have a single out layer who is going for Trump..o h btw non is feeling Hillary.
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posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 01:47 AM
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I'm of Hispanic and Asian descent; mixed Cuban and Japanese ancestry, with a small amount of other. My family and I are political junkies but we usually are just observers. Skeptics who are very cynical about government and politics in general. With that being said we do like both Hillary Clinton and Sanders. I agree with my parents that the GOP party is too theocratic!

With that being said I can't help but trust Bernie Sanders more than Hillary. However, reality is very different when it comes to fulfilling what a candidate puts on the table during election day. If Hillary gets the nomination I wish she'll pick either Sanders or Warren as her running mate; while I hope Sanders picks Warren or even Hillary to be her running mate. They're very similar personalities, and I can see either of these three mentioned as great tickets for the general election.

My dad and I agree Trump or Cruz will get the nomination because of their strong support compared to the rest of the Republican candidates.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 01:52 AM
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If Hillary gets the nomination I wish she'll pick either Sanders or Warren as her running mate; while I hope Sanders picks Warren or even Hillary to be her running mate.


Nope if Sanders win I hope he picks Warren or Alan Grayson, it's far time to end political dynasties.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 01:54 AM
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a reply to: Spider879

I agree with you there. Nothing makes me cringe more in politics than family dynasties. I just don't understand the loyalty when it comes to families like the Kennedy's, Bushes, or even the Clinton family.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 07:54 AM
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originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: Teddy916




If Hillary gets the nomination I wish she'll pick either Sanders or Warren as her running mate; while I hope Sanders picks Warren or even Hillary to be her running mate.


Nope if Sanders win I hope he picks Warren or Alan Grayson, it's far time to end political dynasties.

The only problem I have with Bernie picking one of them is they're still badly needed in Congress. We need as many actual progressives in Congress as possible, especially if we hope to see any of Bernie's budgets passed. So maybe some other left wing figure like Jill Stein or a "compromise" VP like O'Malley?

You see how the establishment center right Democrats are treating him. I fully expect them to water down his proposals just as they did the "public option" during the healthcare negotiations.
edit on 10-2-2016 by enlightenedservant because: whoops. changed "candidate" to "VP" to clarify



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 09:35 AM
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Middle aged black man here. Barely, barely hanging on to the middle class...

I'm a Trump man. Have been all along, and will continue to be. Even though, according to the MSM, we don't actually exist.

But fortunately, it will be made clear exactly how real we are before the election cycle is done.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 10:17 AM
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Middle age black guy. I guess you can call me an independent libertarian. Blue collar upbringing but somewhat of a 1%er income wise now.

Trump is my guy now. Paul didn't make the cut.

I've voted for Democrats in the past, but believe liberal policies are destroying the black community. No way I can vote for Hillary. I'm too educated in business and finance to vote for Bernie's pie in the sky BS.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: Spider879
Da Burn, and while it's in my own bubble most of my Fb friends , including whites and other heady mix of people I know.. I have a single out layer who is going for Trump..o h btw non is feeling Hillary.


It is interesting to get this type of perspective, even if it is just your "bubble."



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: Maverick1
Middle aged black man here. Barely, barely hanging on to the middle class...

I'm a Trump man. Have been all along, and will continue to be. Even though, according to the MSM, we don't actually exist.

But fortunately, it will be made clear exactly how real we are before the election cycle is done.



I have been very curious to see what type of support Trump would ultimately get from minority groups.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 01:12 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated
Middle age black guy. I guess you can call me an independent libertarian. Blue collar upbringing but somewhat of a 1%er income wise now.

Trump is my guy now. Paul didn't make the cut.

I've voted for Democrats in the past, but believe liberal policies are destroying the black community. No way I can vote for Hillary. I'm too educated in business and finance to vote for Bernie's pie in the sky BS.


Although I do not currently support Trump (I am more in favor of Rubio at the moment), I bet we have very similar positions on what we think needs to be done socially and with the economy. Thanks for your input.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 01:14 PM
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originally posted by: Teddy916
I'm of Hispanic and Asian descent; mixed Cuban and Japanese ancestry, with a small amount of other. My family and I are political junkies but we usually are just observers. Skeptics who are very cynical about government and politics in general. With that being said we do like both Hillary Clinton and Sanders. I agree with my parents that the GOP party is too theocratic!

With that being said I can't help but trust Bernie Sanders more than Hillary. However, reality is very different when it comes to fulfilling what a candidate puts on the table during election day. If Hillary gets the nomination I wish she'll pick either Sanders or Warren as her running mate; while I hope Sanders picks Warren or even Hillary to be her running mate. They're very similar personalities, and I can see either of these three mentioned as great tickets for the general election.

My dad and I agree Trump or Cruz will get the nomination because of their strong support compared to the rest of the Republican candidates.


I think you highlight a fundamental aspect of the current Hillary v. Bernie race. Trust v. actually achieving your goals. People seem to support Bernie notwithstanding him propagating pipe dreams because they trust him more. People support Hillary even though they may question her ethics (to a degree or more) because they think she can actually move the ball forward.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: ExNihiloRed
Let's really look into what the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary results mean for democrats.

Iowa is largely white.



White alone, percent, 2014 -- 92.1%
Black or African American alone, percent, 2014 -- 3.4%


Iowa Census Data

New Hampshire is largely white.



White alone, percent, 2014 -- 94.0%
Black or African American alone, percent, 2014 -- 1.5%


New Hampshire Census Data

Some sources appear to believe Hillary has a strong handle on ethnic groups that will make it very difficult for Bernie to grab the nomination.

Presidential Election Poll 2016: Hillary Holds Lead Among Blacks, Latinos; Sanders Winning White Vote

South Carolina Is First Big Test For Sanders Among Black Voters

Although I do not support either Hillary or Bernie, I am interested to see if these statistics are reflective of the ATS membership of the same demographic (although, to be honest, I am not sure what percentage of ATS members identify other than white).

Please chime in even if you support one of the republican candidates. I found these statistics more interesting from the point of view of democrats, but I am open to hear any point of view.


What are the population averages for those states?



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 06:40 PM
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a reply to: Teddy916

I am black and I am not voting for either those parties.

I hope Kasich gets the nomination for the GOP and Brooklyn Bern for the DNC.
No Clinton. No Bush. No Sachs shill Cruz. No Rino Rubio.

Enough typed.



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 08:46 PM
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While I am of mixed race, the only family that I know of are black. My wife is also black. However, I haven't spoken to anyone about who their choices are with respect to the Democratic candidate.

But some of my in-laws are so completely disconnected from politics that I would bet good money that they will support Hillary simply because of her last name. These are folks who are so absolutely clueless that they can't comprehend how destructive Bill Clinton's administration was for black folks.

Remember that in certain circles, Bill Clinton was tongue-in-cheek referred to as "America's first black president." Bill is a master of deception. He could pee on their heads and tell them it was raining. And they would believe it without question.

As enlightenedservant indicated, black folks as a voting block are far from the homogeneous group that they are oftentimes portrayed. You need to take into consideration such factors as intelligence, education, and financial standing of each individual to get a better idea of how they may view the race for President.

-dex



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: DexterRiley

Great response. There are plenty of people I know who are voting for Hillary because they liked Bill (without any strong reason why they liked him).



posted on Feb, 10 2016 @ 11:59 PM
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originally posted by: ExNihiloRed
a reply to: DexterRiley

Great response. There are plenty of people I know who are voting for Hillary because they liked Bill (without any strong reason why they liked him).


Why?

Bill helped outsource american jobs.



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