It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Is Conservative Ideology Finally Dead?

page: 10
23
<< 7  8  9   >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 03:35 AM
link   
Simplistically, the right believes in relying on oneself, the left believes in relying on government.

I know what I would choose!



(post by nomadone407 removed for political trolling and baiting)

posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 02:50 PM
link   
a reply to: Dem0nc1eaner

or you know believe in working together to create something far greater than any individual could ever hope to accomplish raising the living standards for the individual rather than wallowing in the past
the ideals you espouse go against the very concept of a society
which in my eyes make you little better than an animal

do you have any idea at all how you would live if you relied entirely on yourself?
....not well
my guess would be not at all actually (nature is far more unforgiving to the dimwitted than society could ever hope to be)
edit on 12-2-2016 by fartlordsupreme because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 04:20 PM
link   
a reply to: Teikiatsu

You know people who cut off their body parts, sell them, then want free prosthetics?



posted on Feb, 12 2016 @ 05:01 PM
link   

originally posted by: fartlordsupreme
a reply to: Dem0nc1eaner

or you know believe in working together to create something far greater than any individual could ever hope to accomplish raising the living standards for the individual rather than wallowing in the past
the ideals you espouse go against the very concept of a society
which in my eyes make you little better than an animal

do you have any idea at all how you would live if you relied entirely on yourself?
....not well
my guess would be not at all actually (nature is far more unforgiving to the dimwitted than society could ever hope to be)


Indeed it is exactly why the average life expectancy has risen from age 40 to now mid 70s... all the conservatives that want log cabin plots a jug of moon shine a rocking chair and an assault rifle with an old sleeping hound dog at their feet while they rock away protecting their still and inbred family from interlopers above the age of 50 has the very society they hate for living past that age as a huge generality for that's where conservative policy appears to lead instead of the totalitarian crap it really leads to in a dance monkey dance facade to those refusing to believe they are animals yet want to live like one... but hey dont believe what I say research and study it instead of parroting and find out Ive no agenda other than making all agendas clear and saying hey still your decision in the end as it is your right... but do see the situation clearly beyond talking heads programming you based on belief learned by ones parents as that's control worse than what you fight against... as no one wants to be a puppet, yet thats exactly what the those refusing to research are because they let someone else do that for them for whatever reason then dance them like puppets... and doing it is wrong on any political side you can find to argue from.

Ex if you learned to distrust someone from your parents, all someone has to do to control you is make that someone you were taught to distrust your total enemy in order to further their agendas by saying whatever it takes to get you on their side, which is usually hey, I hate those so and so's too. They arent ignorant yet they cross their fingers and hope you are, so they can go dance monkey dance, you cant think beyond what someone has taught you, by teaching yourself instead of listening to those spouting lies and rhetoric just to have you on their side while what they want to carry out will not benefit you in the slightest when all is said and done.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 12:13 AM
link   
a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

You sound vengeful in your OP, and I think you really have no clue what conservative ideology is all about.

And I mean true conservativism, not the hijacked religious-right bollocks.


A real conservative believes in freedom for all.

A real conservative believes in constitutionally limited government.

A real conservative believes in America, and protects American interests so American workers can make products that Americans can afford.

A real conservative invests more in infrastructure and education than in military.

A real conservative kicks special interests out of DC.

A real conservative stops foreign aid to all countries, especially those with quickly growing economies.



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 01:17 AM
link   
a reply to: 8675309jenny

A clear answer and a nice concise list bravo! Since its been asked many times, when you remove the false generalizations and finger pointing assumptions etc. the ideology itself can shine... and if it can stand on it's own? No need to argue for or against but question and clarify beyond agendas for various reasoning if it is the best solution or part of it is and if so what.

Simple easy and uncomplicated.. so it would seem right?

Im not going to debate the ideology some of it makes sense to me and some of it not so much, as im a humanist and nationalism is honestly another form of racism in a sense. But protecting ones livelihood and to make sure it is stable? Makes 100% sense... what doesnt is the side identifying as conservative disrupting livelihood and stability of other countries. But for so many to suffer for a handful of idiots including our own? I fail to see where the idea of justice comes from in its continuance this goes for all that cant bury hatchets but hate is often inherited and carried even by generations far removed that never suffered one day for what they are carrying of a past war they werent even a part of.

Well, I can respect all people just not all views sometimes but that doesn't lead me to hate as theres more of life to see in someone than politics, religion etc.

Thanks for the concise answer once again



posted on Feb, 13 2016 @ 08:08 AM
link   

originally posted by: TheVinylPollution
a reply to: ketsuko

So dramatic! Though your terms suit me just fine, the world would be better without people like you.


And there it is. The Leftist's "final solution". If you do not believe what I believe you should not exist. Perfect.



posted on Feb, 14 2016 @ 01:06 PM
link   
The super wealthy have also put in a ton of hours working over their lives. All of these people are geriatrics and still working 60 hours a week. Millennialist think the act of going to a job is akin to slavery.



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 03:45 PM
link   

originally posted by: BigBrotherDarkness

originally posted by: fartlordsupreme
a reply to: Dem0nc1eaner

or you know believe in working together to create something far greater than any individual could ever hope to accomplish raising the living standards for the individual rather than wallowing in the past
the ideals you espouse go against the very concept of a society
which in my eyes make you little better than an animal

do you have any idea at all how you would live if you relied entirely on yourself?
....not well
my guess would be not at all actually (nature is far more unforgiving to the dimwitted than society could ever hope to be)


Indeed it is exactly why the average life expectancy has risen from age 40 to now mid 70s... all the conservatives that want log cabin plots a jug of moon shine a rocking chair and an assault rifle with an old sleeping hound dog at their feet while they rock away protecting their still and inbred family from interlopers above the age of 50 has the very society they hate for living past that age as a huge generality for that's where conservative policy appears to lead instead of the totalitarian crap it really leads to in a dance monkey dance facade to those refusing to believe they are animals yet want to live like one... but hey dont believe what I say research and study it instead of parroting and find out Ive no agenda other than making all agendas clear and saying hey still your decision in the end as it is your right... but do see the situation clearly beyond talking heads programming you based on belief learned by ones parents as that's control worse than what you fight against... as no one wants to be a puppet, yet thats exactly what the those refusing to research are because they let someone else do that for them for whatever reason then dance them like puppets... and doing it is wrong on any political side you can find to argue from.

Ex if you learned to distrust someone from your parents, all someone has to do to control you is make that someone you were taught to distrust your total enemy in order to further their agendas by saying whatever it takes to get you on their side, which is usually hey, I hate those so and so's too. They arent ignorant yet they cross their fingers and hope you are, so they can go dance monkey dance, you cant think beyond what someone has taught you, by teaching yourself instead of listening to those spouting lies and rhetoric just to have you on their side while what they want to carry out will not benefit you in the slightest when all is said and done.

Man, I have seldom read anything anything less coherent or literate, on any website, at any point in time.



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 03:51 PM
link   

originally posted by: 8675309jenny
a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

You sound vengeful in your OP, and I think you really have no clue what conservative ideology is all about.

And I mean true conservativism, not the hijacked religious-right bollocks.


A real conservative believes in freedom for all.

A real conservative believes in constitutionally limited government.

A real conservative believes in America, and protects American interests so American workers can make products that Americans can afford.

A real conservative invests more in infrastructure and education than in military.

A real conservative kicks special interests out of DC.

A real conservative stops foreign aid to all countries, especially those with quickly growing economies.

Not a bad attempt. Except a real conservative doesn't "invest in education" by throwing endless money at failed, incompetent public school systems and teachers' unions. Or federal funds at infrastructure that isn't intra-state.

These are both state programs that need to be free of federal meddling.

Also, a true conservative doesn't play favorites among private business, with federal money, whether internal or global competition. Pure capitalism is pure competition. Which nearly always yields the best products and success. And with a constitution that disallows federal dictators or oligarchs, America will nearly always have the best freedom for creativity and ingenuity, in global competition.



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 03:55 PM
link   

originally posted by: VVV88

originally posted by: TheVinylPollution
a reply to: ketsuko

So dramatic! Though your terms suit me just fine, the world would be better without people like you.


And there it is. The Leftist's "final solution". If you do not believe what I believe you should not exist. Perfect.

It's what happens when someone's always applying the logic of a 6 year old to all of these arguments.

Children at that age don't really understand that you're NOT supposed to hate those who have differing ideas, or accuse them of hating you for believing differently.

Or wishing that you were dead / gone. Little ones don't realize that wishing everybody dead isn't going to work out well.



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 04:04 PM
link   
a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

So,what is your solution to this "conservative ideology" this world has
had to endure for so many years?
Since I am a conservative I am very interested in your answer to this
question.



posted on Feb, 15 2016 @ 04:06 PM
link   

originally posted by: DrakeINFERNO
The super wealthy have also put in a ton of hours working over their lives. All of these people are geriatrics and still working 60 hours a week. Millennialist think the act of going to a job is akin to slavery.

lol, I wish you were exaggerating.

All I read anymore is a bunch of clowns moaning that a job is an evil conspiracy against man.

They have a whole new language. Wage slave, rent seekers, expropriation, etc.

Actually not new, but forgotten for about 75 years until today's lazy all got to searching for excuses for their laziness. Just like marx, lol !!



posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 07:07 PM
link   
a reply to: Dem0nc1eaner

People can't rely on themselves when they have to work for 8 dollars an hour and don't have rich parents to put them through college



posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 09:10 PM
link   
a reply to: 8675309jenny
This is an excellent list.


Okay, so - which of those GOP 'conservative' contenders do you promote?


edit on 2/16/2016 by BuzzyWigs because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 09:18 PM
link   
Conservatism will rise like a Phoenix if a democrat is in office when the system collapses. I actually foresee a republican winning & TPTB using the collapse to eradicate conservatism & enact their final push towards global government socialism ie NWO.



posted on Feb, 16 2016 @ 09:19 PM
link   
a reply to: VVV88


And there it is. The Leftist's "final solution". If you do not believe what I believe you should not exist. Perfect.


You sure about that?

Because - well - it seems to me that, and in my opinion, it appears that people like Ted Cruz want to force us all to "believe what he believes" i.e. God.

His version of God, or (in other words): your rights are stripped away. You are not allowed to make decisions about your own body - you are not allowed to marry someone of the same gender, you are not allowed to be needy (that's on you, after all)... etc and so on and so forth..........you are not allowed. This is a CHRISTIAN NATION!!!! Screw the homeless and hungry and "gays" and all of those loser assholes.....

EFF THEM~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, and also - TORTURE! And CARPET BOMBING! And Eff Them some more!!!!

That always calms everyone down, you know.
Or, they die. Or both.


edit on 2/16/2016 by BuzzyWigs because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 17 2016 @ 10:25 AM
link   
Conservatives and socialists.

Still a better love story than "Twilight".




posted on Feb, 18 2016 @ 01:00 AM
link   
a reply to: stevieray

Aww whittle baby want a bottle? Cause momma is not allowed to tit feed you anymore in public... so latch onto this food nipple til you get some better teeth. Thick skin I've got it, if that offends you that's why you're a baby and can't debate without a rage party. So hey you're none of those things and if you cannot comprehend the message STFU if you cant debate with anything more than insults adults are above such childish behavior except showing them childish behavior right back wee now im gonna try and drag you down to my level and beat you with experience yawn but no thanks.

Oh enough fooling around eh? Thats the stereotype pushed on the extreme left of the extreme right... just like a tree hugging tofu eating Birkenstock wearing Johnny Hemp seed with a pot on his head ok? It was said as generalized which means in essence? Fallacy just the same as the extreme lefts view of hill billy wanting to sex up his/her own children

liberal/conservative blah blah blah... both lies and both extreme in agenda and few know it... or hell even know what they are even when identifying as that... why? Hook line and sinker of ideological bait to reel people in then clack them on the head into a drooling unconsciousness or distraction from real issues that both have refused to solve way over 50 years under moral ideological rule.... of course the Christian class of society was going to one day rear it's ugly head in the middle East in a my god can beat up you god ideology of belief. much the same way little tyrants yell my daddy can beat up yours on play grounds every single day across the globe.

It's all separatist agendas for a global cabal ran by anyone ELSE but the people that make it up... life and industry in the hands of the actual people in it's possession? Oh MALE god in heaven hallowed be this lame, so it can be more of the same. Seriously? This is absolutely ridiculous and you wanna know what else?

I received some investment firm mail, that addressed me as formal as a letter can be on very expensive paper and raised font... youd think it was a freaking wedding invitation, but anyway it in short said: It appears sir you have over 500,000.00 which may or not be the case... lawsuit if a bank is selling account holders bank worth number one... but aside from that point? It went onto say that placed me in the top 7% of Americans.

Which means 93% of Americans have less than 500,000.00 to their name for all the work they have done.

So yeah man, woman or child... this is what we are fighting to keep? It's a $h!t circle playing ring around the rosy but it's all going down the drain so park your prosey.

It isn't us against them because they are us and we are them... humanity come get some.



new topics

top topics



 
23
<< 7  8  9   >>

log in

join