NH primary results live CNN

a reply to: JacKatMtn

WTF!? That's pretty Orwellian. I'm sure he's heard of the Koch Bros and Soros. How about Citizens United? If not, he needs to quit his job LOL! But, of course he has. He's just controlling the narrative.

a reply to: kosmicjack

It's what ALL of the pundits do... on both sides...

This current election cycle is the tsunami they didn't forecast...

Doesn't matter to me that I don't like Trump or Sanders, what matters to me is that the norm has been disrupted...

And the folks have done this... not the Citizens United Super Pacs, and the elite selected candidates...

Clinton, Bush, Rubio can explain themselves to their keepers...

Let the folks decide this time..... I hope that mentality spreads to getting rid of the lifers in the House & Senate....

A political earthquake.... I like it...

FNC... I would have never believed that they would be stumping for HRC, are pulling the race deal, and how HRC should pull that vote in SC, and are wondering how in the hell Sanders can supplant HRC's control over the black vote in the south...


IF that isn't evidence of MEDIA being BOUGHT and PAID for by the ELITE... I don't know what is...


Keep voting YOUR WAY United States... SHOCK THE SYSTEM..... Don't fall for the folks on TV....

We were fooled by hope & change promised, WE CAN CREATE HOPE & CHANGE WITH OUR VOTE........

Flip the script..... Send the status quo packing....

FNC bushing Bush legacy in SC.... promoting his influence there...

Does it exist, or is it another media ploy?

South Carolinians need to decide for themselves, not rely on the TV screen..... and the PAID for PUNDITS...

Don't fall for the hype....

If you need any more evidence of the influence and bias in media....

FNC is spending the majority of their time trying to figure out which one's of the close THIRD PLACE candidates in NH will fare in SC..

Ignore #2 Kasich, Accepting Trump WON NH...

Focus the talk on Cruz Rubio and Bush...

Yeah... so subtle, who the establishment wants out there.....

Where's my Cruz Rubio Bush pisson them fathead graphic option!!!!!!

a reply to: FamCore

Not sure if anyone below has answered this for you, but here's the dirty on deligates.

The results of the primary have little to do with the nomination. It's like the presidential election, the popular vote doesn't elect the president (or in this case, secure the nomination). In the case of the presidential election, it's the electoral college who elects the president. Oh yeah, and don't for a second confuse that term with an actual college - it just means a bunch of people who have been chosen to cast a vote for president - it has nothing to do with an educational institution.

Each state has a number of deligates in proportion to their population. Those deligates choose one candidate or another, and when they go to the national convention, it's the deligates who vote on their candidate for the nomination.

The popular election (or primary) is a dog and pony show designed to give the illusion of a voice to the people. The actual nominee for either party, and later the president are chosen by a bunch of jerks who presume to speak for the rest of us and are probably just as bought and paid for as the politicians they vote for.

originally posted by: stutteringp0et
a reply to: FamCore

Not sure if anyone below has answered this for you, but here's the dirty on deligates.

The results of the primary have little to do with the nomination. It's like the presidential election, the popular vote doesn't elect the president (or in this case, secure the nomination). In the case of the presidential election, it's the electoral college who elects the president. Oh yeah, and don't for a second confuse that term with an actual college - it just means a bunch of people who have been chosen to cast a vote for president - it has nothing to do with an educational institution.

Each state has a number of deligates in proportion to their population. Those deligates choose one candidate or another, and when they go to the national convention, it's the deligates who vote on their candidate for the nomination.

The popular election (or primary) is a dog and pony show designed to give the illusion of a voice to the people. The actual nominee for either party, and later the president are chosen by a bunch of jerks who presume to speak for the rest of us and are probably just as bought and paid for as the politicians they vote for.

The Superdelegates will nominate the candidate. The rest is a dog and pony show..

Sander's lead increases to 22%. Clinton somehow picks up another two delegates...

originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
Sander's lead increases to 22%. Clinton somehow picks up another two delegates...

The superdelegates don't have to go with the popular vote.. They pledge their allegiance to the establishment candidate, that is how Clinton picked up almost as many delegates as Sanders despite being crushed by the vote.

The game is rigged.

a reply to: clay2 baraka

Almost as many? The NH link at the start of this post has her picking up two more than Sanders.

This is unbelievably stupid.

Yep - pretty amazing. Clinton leads New Hampshire right now with 38% of the vote. Sanders coming in second with 60%.
Delegates 15 compared to Sanders 13.
There are 4 more delegates that are not shown yet on CNN.

Someday y'all will understand that land of the free is the greatest lie ever told. Game is rigged and unless you want to step up your game from mere voting you won't be doing dickall so stop wasting your time.

Wait... so Clinton might still win NH via super delegates? I know this is feasible but... is that actually something likely to happen? Everyone has already declared Sanders the victor, including Clinton. Could that have changed by tomorrow?

Peace.

The real GOP NH results:

Trump 47.8% (11 delegates)
GOP party choice at the convention 13.04% (3 delegates)
Kasich 13.04% ( 3 delegates)
Cruz 8.7% (2 delegates)
Bush 8.7% (2 delegates)
Rubio 8.7% (2 delegates)

The above percentages ae based on delegates awarded.

The real Dem result

Clinton 53.6% (15 delegates)
Sanders 46.4% (13 delegates)

There are still 4 delgates remaining which will likely go to Clinton making the final result

Clinton 59.4% (19 delegates)
Sanders 40.6% (13 delegates)

Basically Sanders needed to get 81% of the actual vote to win NH. Those are the rules. For the Dem's there is basically no choice on offer, only a pick by the party. The GOP is based more on actual votes, but even then the party can make it very difficult for a candiate they dont want to actually win. Trump for example will need to break 50% quicly to stand any chance. Bush and Rubio are still the clear favourites

a reply to: UKTruth

The link in the OP that shows that Clinton has 15 delegates includes the 6 delegates she got from Iowa. It started at 6-0 for Clinton when 0% of votes were in...

a reply to: whatsup86


No, they were the delegates she 'pre-won' in NH due to super delegates.
Clinton won 27 delegates in Iowa to Sanders 21. (She will actually end up with 31 in Iowa)

In other words she had big wins in both states, with a running total that looks something like 50 vs 34 in delegate counts.

She will start every other state miles clear before a vote is cast also.

Sanders simply can't win. Its not a good thing, but its the thruth. The only way Clinton loses is if the DNC decide she cant win a general election and replace her with another candidate, but Sanders is not in the race at all. That does not mean he is not adding something though. His message is certainly being heard.

In truth, on the GOP side, Trump is also not really in the race. He has almost no chance.

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: whatsup86


No, they were the delegates she 'pre-won' in NH due to super delegates.
Clinton won 27 delegates in Iowa to Sanders 21. (She will actually end up with 31 in Iowa)

In other words she had big wins in both states, with a running total that looks something like 50 vs 34 in delegate counts.

She will start every other state miles clear before a vote is cast also.

Sanders simply can't win. Its not a good thing, but its the thruth. The only way Clinton loses is if the DNC decide she cant win a general election and replace her with another candidate, but Sanders is not in the race at all. That doe snot mean he is not adding something though. His message is certainly being heard.

Wow my bad then.. So because of a cointoss in 1 state she has a headstart everywhere? If so thats insane and a joke. speechless.

originally posted by: whatsup86

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: whatsup86


No, they were the delegates she 'pre-won' in NH due to super delegates.
Clinton won 27 delegates in Iowa to Sanders 21. (She will actually end up with 31 in Iowa)

In other words she had big wins in both states, with a running total that looks something like 50 vs 34 in delegate counts.

She will start every other state miles clear before a vote is cast also.

Sanders simply can't win. Its not a good thing, but its the thruth. The only way Clinton loses is if the DNC decide she cant win a general election and replace her with another candidate, but Sanders is not in the race at all. That doe snot mean he is not adding something though. His message is certainly being heard.

Wow my bad then.. So because of a cointoss in 1 state she has a headstart everywhere? If so thats insane and a joke. speechless.

Welcome to the world of rigged politics, where the people have no say, only the wealthy donors/SuperPacs, who can buy the super delegates.

originally posted by: whatsup86

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: whatsup86


No, they were the delegates she 'pre-won' in NH due to super delegates.
Clinton won 27 delegates in Iowa to Sanders 21. (She will actually end up with 31 in Iowa)

In other words she had big wins in both states, with a running total that looks something like 50 vs 34 in delegate counts.

She will start every other state miles clear before a vote is cast also.

Sanders simply can't win. Its not a good thing, but its the thruth. The only way Clinton loses is if the DNC decide she cant win a general election and replace her with another candidate, but Sanders is not in the race at all. That doe snot mean he is not adding something though. His message is certainly being heard.

Wow my bad then.. So because of a cointoss in 1 state she has a headstart everywhere? If so thats insane and a joke. speechless.

No the coin toss was not really a factor - actaully she lost most of the coin tosses (the 6 in a row story was an internet hoax). The results of the coin tosses were relased and Sanders won more.

The head start is simply down to the party having their own delegates they can hand out to candidates based on their own preference, not the peoples.

If you add up the country wide delegates the current picture is Clinton 394, Sanders 42 (this is Party delegates + the people of Iwoa plus the people of New Hampshire). This is why Sanders has to win massively to even be a threat. he has no chance.