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originally posted by: Restricted
a reply to: interupt42
You have lost your mind. Libertarian? I wonder.
originally posted by: Blueracer
originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: Blueracer
You can say and think that all you want, but the sad reality and the real reason that a third party candidate has no chance is because of corruption and manipulation of the masses by the GOP, DNC, and the MSM.
You must first expose the corruption before a third party candidate ever has a chance.
That's ridiculous. You're going to vote for one of your listed causes of corruption's candidate in hopes that it un-corrupts itself.
I didn't say he was the best we got. He is the best CHANCE we got to expose corruption . Then maybe down the road third parties might get a better shot.
There are accusations of corruption against Bernie as well. Recent example
Plus he condones Hillary's apparent corruption by brushing it off as the american people are tired of hearing about it. “Let me say something that may not be great politics. But I think the secretary is right, and that is that the American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn e-mails.” Bernie on scandal
I believe in smaller gov't read my post again. I never claimed that was sanders, ream my post again.
In other words, you talk the talk but you don't walk the walk.
However, I don't think their is one Ideal ideology that is best for all circumstances. Right now I think what is more important ,even more than ideals themselves is exposing Corruption in DC. Which what Sanders claims to be.
People should know by now that we can't trust politician's claims, no matter how good they sound. Hope and change sounded great. That got Obama elected. Most people didn't get the hope and change that they wanted.
I'm looking long term not near term since that hasn't worked out to well for a third party.
Time is now!
originally posted by: VashTheStampede
a reply to: interupt42
Being a Libertarian myself I can't really see voting for anyone unless the entire voting system was changed and if it wasn't used as a tool of manipulation by TPTB..
originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Dude...I've known liberal-minded Libertarians.
Being a "libertarian" doesn't mean you have to be pigeonholed into being conservative.
originally posted by: schuyler
No, not "only." You're taking my post out of context and leaving out the best part. Both Sanders and Hitler decided there were Bad Guys(tm) causing all the economic problems. Hitler concentrated on "Jews" as the culprits. Jews were "the bankers." Sound familiar? Sanders concentrates on "Wall Street" and "billionaires" as the culprits, i.e.: "The bankers." The method of propaganda is the same: vilify a group, blame them for all your problems, and promise to "get" that group. Sanders suggest we tax the hell out of the rich and for the record, Hitler NEVER SAID he would actually kill 8 million Jews; He just vilified them in speeches and let his henchmen do the dirty work without telling the German people, many of whom were as shocked as anyone when they found out what happened. The German people, by and large, were not a "bunch of Nazis." They were pawns in the game.
So, do you get it yet? Same tactics:
1. Vilify a group.
2. Blame all economic woes on them.
3. Promise to take care of them.
4. Get elected.
originally posted by: TomLawless
I hear bad things about super PACs all the time. People gnash teeth about them constantly, even politicians, if you can believe that.
You know they say that kind of stuff to get elected, right? Probably even Bernie.
Don't sell your soul to Marxists, brother. It's a slippery slope.