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The Illuminati showed me the truth. I am tasked with informing you.

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posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 08:18 PM
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a reply to: NemoNeo

You have clear explanations of how scientifically things work. However, how do you know all of this without spelling out what kind of background or knowledge you have in this field. Obviously you have studied some physics or chemistry, some psychology. So either you are coming up with a theory of how things work from your own studies, but I am really looking for some references to build your credibility on...so as not to call you for making up a bullsh-- story. You feel me?




posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 08:29 PM
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originally posted by: NemoNeo

Think, if just one group got this power and wasn't kept under lock and key by the secret society,that group could literally take over the entire planet in a day. Not gonna happen. And what. You're gonna say you don't want to by things, but you'd rather experience the world being taken over by super-villains in a day?


Have the leaders of ISIS figured this secret? Or have the Illuminati partnered with them in hopes of figuring out how to "stress" this world even more so that becomes so chaotic that society will be called upon to accept a NWO?



posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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PEOPLE OF THIS THREAD

Assume for the moment OP is telling the truth

Super secret high tech black ops cabal is running the show

Ok

So far so good

So how are these guys the good guys when they would pull off things like 9/11 inside job

Creation of Isis to oust Assad in Syria

Endless debt

OP, you my friend are a storm trooper in the empire Star Wars

You are the bad guy, and those you serve are evil



posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: VanGcouverite




Relax man. I am talking to this guy and you cant know why. I understand what he is saying since I have heard it all before. This is one of those unifying theories that can drive people crazy trying to figure out how it all connects. In order to maintain the train of thought absolute commitment is required. That is what I find interesting in these conversations.

Other than that it sounds like you are upset that you cant be recruited. I cant be either so dont feel bad. I am too old and set in my awesome ways. I also smoke too much pot and give too little Fs about saving or ending the world in one fell swoop.

I believe in the process. Thats why me and this man can talk. You believe in a destination, a perceived good you have chosen. That is why we can not. For you and I to talk I would have to accept your good only to run vindicating circles around ourselves with dark logic,(looping self reinforcing false truths)

I dont believe in good and bad as you do. I make a choice like yourself, I just dont define an infinite universe in extremes of good bad or neutral.

That talent is what makes me enjoy things like this thread. I am smiling and in a good mood because of it. How are you not?

This is all dreaming anyways baby. You can do it like you like, just enjoy it/



posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: VanGcouverite

Relax man. I am talking to this guy and you cant know why. I understand what he is saying since I have heard it all before. This is one of those unifying theories that can drive people crazy trying to figure out how it all connects. In order to maintain the train of thought absolute commitment is required. That is what I find interesting in these conversations.


I am on the same thought wavelength with you on this one. Some people choose to close their minds whilst others who know something want to go deeper into what has been said to either clarify, verify or nullify what we already know or have heard/read about.



posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: tadaman

Everywhere I look

I see basically people like you who believe that morality is in the eyes of beholder

Morality means what you want it to mean

Killing kids

Keeping everything secret

Secret courts

Assassinations

Blackmail

It's all good baby it's all good, after all powerful have their reasons

This apathy toward basic morality is going to literally destroy about half this world and kill billions of people

If I liked you Tadaman

I WOULD TELL YOU THE REAL FUTURE IN DETAIL not this nemo cabal lover

But I won't cause I don't like you


Cause I don't want guys like you to actually survive the future
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posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 09:07 PM
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a reply to: VanGcouverite

Ok. Sorry bro. I wish I could make it better somehow. Fix it.

I hope I dont die. It sucks you wont save me. I understand. In the future only the better people will survive. Well, you know more about it than stupid me.

Ok. Have a good life after when I am dead.

I guess I will just be in the after life like all the kids you saw me kill and stuff. The people I blackmailed along with my cabal brethren.

We are totally bummed out now. I am not even going to tell master. He is insane after Mondays.

Well, I will try to stay out of your way man. If you find it in your heart to forgive me for trying to end the world and all then thank you in advance. If not I understand, Lucifer bless you regardless of your decision.

a reply to: VanGcouverite

I see. Indeed such a punishment would show me the light and the error of my ways. I am sorry. I wish I would have joined the good guys like you did. I went with the first cabal to choose me. I knew I should have waited. Played the field. In any event I see now how crappy my team is and I wish I could switch. Its not as cool as I thought. I guess I am stuck now right?

I understand how you would not want to save someone like me. Its ok. I deserve to be a sex slave in a dirty canteena in some god forsaken corner of the galaxy. After what I have done, its a light punishment in prelude to my eternal one.

p.s.I wish I could give you more stars.
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posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 09:11 PM
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a reply to: tadaman

Clever word play

Even made me smile

Hey

Perhaps after few lifetimes as illuminati sex slave on some far off planet

You'll wake up and join us

The real good guys, you'll do some crying and we are gonna say

There there....there there

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posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 10:03 PM
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originally posted by: NemoNeo

This is the whole point, there are 7 billion people. They are doing this. They are dilating time to spend years worth of time basically teleporting around and stress testing the population.


But you see, there's no need for 'time dilation.' First of all, time is a construct of the HUMAN mind...not a divine one. Second of all, there's this thing called divine inspiration...or maybe you know it by the name 'Holy Spirit' (or Holy Ghost) who can instantly fill a person with divine and heavenly knowledge. No 'stress testing' necessary.


originally posted by: NemoNeo
If you think you could do it better then why aren't you? Hmm?


I'm not the one claiming to be a Messiah or messenger or Angel or whatever the hell you are trying to claim.



originally posted by: NemoNeo
What do you think MK ULTRA is?


An old defunct program that failed.


originally posted by: NemoNeo
What do you think blue beam, blue bird is?


An old defunct program that failed.


originally posted by: NemoNeo
What? You think it's to create a big monster that will eat you in the skY?

Depends what kind of drugs you are on....


originally posted by: NemoNeo
HAHAHAHAHAHA, AND YOU SAY I'M MAKING THIS # UP? OOOOOmg, do you know how crazy that sounds?


Sounds like just MAYBE you are starting to get a clue... I'm pretty sure the rest of us already know.



originally posted by: NemoNeo
This all stems from the understanding the EVERYTHING is VIBRATIONS.


I have a degree in physics...I'm pretty sure I understand these mechanics better than you.

Okay...not going to keep indulging your delusions. I really do hope you get some help....



posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 10:44 PM
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originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: NemoNeo

If this were all a dream and what things you say were true....could you describe the transition. Specifically those who resist. Those not included in the 64%

How much different will it be for them after they make the transition from a less stable parting point.

Are they a loss or are they a reworked version of their former self after the transition, but still in a denser differenciated frequency range from the rest.

?


To tell you the truth I am very nervous and having second thoughts about this thread. I wouldn't be surprised if it was deleted out of no where and I wouldn't have a problem with that at this point. I still don't know the best way to go about this without missing the point or confusing people. I think I'm doing fairly good on getting the perspective straight although I know I skewered the mechanics of the device up above. It's apparently really simple for a higher level University student to understand, if they have a few good years background studying math and science in their life.

I will try to go ahead and answer direct questions from you and try to get a better grip on how people react to this and thus how I should go ahead and speak to you.

So, I was told that no one ever really loses their "soul" connection. That one can't ever really die. There is no "eternal" hell there is only a temporary confusion that occurs when the geometrically sound pattern of life is skewered within one's vision of the Universe. One would make it back from the "lost" realm, although, again it's weird because every "time" spent in this realm seems to last for an "eternity" every time.

So it's to say it's equally painful if some one is placed in the machine for one of these tests and say they experience it at age 24 in a negative way, and it's an "eternity" of discomfort and panic. Then let's say that same person dies at age 94 and is in a lower, negative state, the same state they were in during that test. They would go to the same "eternal" confusion and discomfort state. But when you come out of this state. It seems like it was for a second, but an eternity each time. What I'm saying is that if there is another state that consciousness goes into after that, it will eventually come but it will still seem like an eternity lasted in between the experiences.

It's comparable to how dreams sometimes seem to last for days while you go on an adventure and meet new people and sometimes even get into trouble and worry about things. As soon as you wake up, no matter how long that experience was, it seems like the memory is kept up within a tiny little bubble in your memory and it was really all happening in an instant as soon as you fell asleep. That is like this realm.

(sorry for run-on's in advance)
So I'm assuming that if there is another state after we reach this realm, or maybe if we are born again in a human body or something, and we previously died in a negative state, that it would seem like an eternity of panic and hell and then when the person was born in a new body or moved on to another state or whatever happens, that they would snap out of it kind of like a bad dream and it would seem like it was over in a second. OF course, if the person found themselves in a new baby body, it would be quiet the wrong way to start your day.

So it would seem to last for an eternity, but then one would snap out of it and it would seem like an instantaneous moment like how your dreams all wrap up into an instantaneous memory as soon as you begin to recall them.

Also, the idea I think behind why this works this way is a kind of "protective" system, or just a balance system for the Universe. When we go from "regular" time which is what we have here, our brain dilates time to a slight or intense degree depending on how much "Fun" or "discomfort" we're experience. The amount of details in our environment or awareness input also actually influences the experience of the flow of time and this has to do with some of the experiments done. Time dilation is pretty bland an experience, but it is a very interesting thing. I will explain more on this. In continuation, I believe the time dilation experience of going from "normal" time to "eternal" time is what causes the intense 'rift' in our ability to recognize or reckon with the conscious experience of it. In the way that "eternal" time is so intense, I believe we are thrown right back into "normal" time and it wraps the whole experience of eternity, no matter how positive or how negative, into an instantaneous memory where it all seems like it happened in a single moment, just like a long dream.

The time dilation process is amazing. I just remembered this. So basically, they have devices that can be worn kind of like goggles and they display a holographic screen fairly close to your retina.

They have a chemical aspect and a machine aspect which can slow the perception of time down to a stand-still. Ironically, this is done by speeding up the processes of the brain. As a result, the brain feels it has "more" time to deal with, and it reacts like it is essentially capable of moving faster than everyone around you. It literally feels as if time goes into slow motion and you can watch the spray of an aerosol can shoot out the contents and literally watch as each and every millions of spray droplets burst out from a central point and burst apart separating from larger droplets to smaller and smaller more and more amounts of micro-droplets. It would all happen before you in slow-motion as your brain processes all the same information it would in those short seconds, many many times over, and so you see those same 2-3 seconds, but in the degrees of hundreds of milliseconds.

The development of this technology became used for what was pretty much outlined in "The Matrix" movies where the individual can get "plugged" into this device which can run through in fast-forward and teach them manuals on self-defense, engineering manuals, instructional videos, books, manuals, etc etc etc. Basically any text, any visual, any auditory, anything. This can be uploaded in the hologram "goggles" and the drug or machine is used to speed the person's brain up and they can "download" about 10 hours or so of regular-real-time learning of any subject they are at least initially introduced to. Any more than about 10 hours and it's a bit stressful for the brain, but I am pretty sure now they have developed ways around that and basically anything is possible.

With the original development though, overloading the brain was easy, and so there has been huge amounts of genius put into protecting the brain and enhancing the signals without chemicals or invasive machinery.



posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: VanGcouverite
PEOPLE OF THIS THREAD

Assume for the moment OP is telling the truth

Super secret high tech black ops cabal is running the show

Ok

So far so good

So how are these guys the good guys when they would pull off things like 9/11 inside job

Creation of Isis to oust Assad in Syria

Endless debt

OP, you my friend are a storm trooper in the empire Star Wars

You are the bad guy, and those you serve are evil


I thought so for 16 years. They didn't do 9/11, but there is some truth to the fore-knowledge thing. I can't really go into that because it's too complicated for even me to understand. But basically a big event was fore-seen and apparently even "prophesied" by some prophets that they say somehow had access to the knowledge they did.

This knowledge was around throughout history and is hidden through symbolism and truth everywhere. Even in language.

And no I'm not the storm trooper, but I've seen the storm troopers. They literally have storm-troopers. Ok, not really. But they actually could show you a guy in full gear that would be wayyyy more intense than any storm trooper. They scout, employ, and probably produce the best athletes, musicians, actors, scientists, soldiers and basically all kinds of characters of civilized society. Everyone is the best of the best at what they do and they don't really have the problems that regular people do with worrying about this or that. Sure, they have their resources in tact, but they also all know about this field energy and alternate realm so they are purely focused and aware like you would be in the most serious version of your life ever.

There are people pulling the strings with certain aspects of society, but this is the greedy minority and as soon as people stop feeding into these greedy people's plans they are given the gift of all.

No bull#, these people are empowered by stupid people who buy their products, give into their misconceived cults, go to war with each other, believe everything they see on tv, don't think for themselves, don't question false-authority, don't notice the discrepancies in certain areas of science, politics, religion, government, etc etc etc. These are the people who support the plan of those who rig the system or manipulate things just to collect profits.

This won't change until the people overthrow that within themselves and stop giving into the temptation of supporting the idea a reality exists where you can just give all your power away and expect something good to happen.



posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 11:08 PM
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originally posted by: Skywatcher2011
a reply to: NemoNeo

You have clear explanations of how scientifically things work. However, how do you know all of this without spelling out what kind of background or knowledge you have in this field. Obviously you have studied some physics or chemistry, some psychology. So either you are coming up with a theory of how things work from your own studies, but I am really looking for some references to build your credibility on...so as not to call you for making up a bullsh-- story. You feel me?


Basically, they use the device to read your mind and your handler probes your brain along with a series of others working in tandem who literally pick you apart. After a while of this, I kind of cracked and did what they wanted me to. I fought back mentally.

See, I found myself in a situation involving abuse when I was a young child before I met these people. Apparently they find the people, somehow, that were in some kind of trauma or abuse as a child. They work with these children.

I wasn't mentally strong, although I had the ability to detect emotions and feel and give love on a scale I didn't really notice in society except in various animals in nature. Don't get me wrong, parental love is strong, but most people just love their kids or family and not many people really openly "love" each other in society. We all have bro's or a girl-friend but "people" don't get together and love each other. Sure, they go to parties, they go to football games, they go to outings and shopping centers, but what are they doing there? Are they reinforcing their egos or are they really loving each other? Are they seeing each other and learning about themselves or are they getting loaded and looking for the next #? This is not what life is about!

So I was very emotionally "tender" but strong to a degree that I supposed warranted being brought into a program like this. Almost forgot where I was going... when I was in the part of the program where they pick you apart mentally. I basically didn't fight back for the longest time. This includes in regular life too. I was just a little kid but I still remember it well (a strong memory is as often a side-effect as is a blurry one a times), I would let just about anything crush me emotionally including just a stranger passing me by and giving me a strange stare. I was a broken little kid.

So you could imagine I was literally crapping my pants when they told me this was their plan to make me strong. I should also say I theorized about God, consciousness, life, energy, reality, physics and magnetic forces, the world, the Universe, the existence of the afterlife, and what I would call "impossible physics" or "miracles" but I know they call 'quantum physics' and the like today.

Another aspect of this, getting around to my point, is that I was lucid dreaming and fully aware of the "out of body" state by 8 or 9 years old, possibly earlier. I had figured out, with all my strange little kid meditation and interest in exploring the inner world that I could stay awake all night and end up light in the floor without a pillow with my face and eyes facing the sunlight. If I did everything right, my mind would be very tired but my body would be so uncomfortable that it wouldn't be able to fall all the way asleep.

I found I could slip into altered states by kind of forcing my body to bounce into this pattern, and this is called the "hypnagogic" state as I later found out. In this state images or visuals can pop up instantly. Sounds and music can be heard off in the distance. The body feel as stiff and stuck as a statue made out of stone, but the mind is drifting and lofty, away from all the physical sensations. The body may begin to feel as if it's floating, or vibrating. This is the sacred process of lifting out of the body into a purely mental state and form. I began doing this at will, because I was so interested and intrigued when I first experienced this state and ultimately a fully lucid dream when I was just a young child staying awake all night and propping myself up into meditation.

The trick was to keep the mind and body relaxed enough, for long enough time, for the consciousness to slip into this altered state, in between sleep and aware. This is the shift from the Alpha state into Theta and Delta consciousness. I kept my mind and body relaxed by being so tired from not sleeping. I kept the mind from falling entirely asleep and that is the second key. I did this by propping the body in a way that the sun or position was uncomfortably unsuitable for falling asleep. This allowed the power of my will to be all that was needed to stop from falling fully asleep and bounce my mind on the edge of sleep and fully aware or even slightly aware.



posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 11:12 PM
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To continue on with that last post, that was more on why they may have found me. Second, when they were 'picking' my consciousness apart, it was only then, after years of basically being too shy to defend myself even though I had (humbly) great ideas, that I fought back.

As I fought back, I didn't realize it, but they were teaching me how to use the portions of the device that operate through mind input. I was becoming more and more sensitive to the fields around me, their own thoughts and ultimately they were leaving me clues in every lesson, every test, about how to operate the machine and "fight back" without me knowing it at first.

As soon as I started putting the clues together, I thought I was "the man", I literally thought I was figuring it out and tricking them into giving up the goods. This was all a clever game, so very clever. I felt smarter than I really was, and in turn I learned how to use the machine "against" them. I say "against" because I'm pretty sure I'm not in anyway capable of over powering them but that they were actually "playing" with me in the strangest and yet most serious sense of the term and literally taught me how to use it to defend myself.

Ironically, this is exactly the kind of thought power and even "mental kung fu" that one uses to navigate out of the possibility of the Hell realm potential and even apparently navigate out of the Hell realm itself.

What we call "difficult" in life is actually a series of lessons in disguise that we learn when we change our perspective from only perceiving the little details that we feel make us feel small and start seeing the larger picture that we are always, constantly given a chance to move higher in the ranks of consciousness by directly facing fear at any point in time in our life. Some processes, moments, and methods are just very effect over others.



posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 11:15 PM
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originally posted by: Skywatcher2011

originally posted by: NemoNeo

Think, if just one group got this power and wasn't kept under lock and key by the secret society,that group could literally take over the entire planet in a day. Not gonna happen. And what. You're gonna say you don't want to by things, but you'd rather experience the world being taken over by super-villains in a day?


Have the leaders of ISIS figured this secret? Or have the Illuminati partnered with them in hopes of figuring out how to "stress" this world even more so that becomes so chaotic that society will be called upon to accept a NWO?


Excuse my language, "hell no", and I say that happily.

1) If they did, you would know it.

2) They would never get it.

3) They are being "handled". They won't get enough power to really do anything but piss the civilized world off enough to stop terrorism if they're man enough.

There is a world "stress" project but at this point since there is so much stress already it is literally a "world-stress management" project and it will lead to the ending ignorance if we can see through the illusory fear of some unknown thing. Human brains are to fear, uncivilized minds.

And to add to that, if they wanted to take over the world, they could literally fly super-generator carrying crafts around various regions of the planet or country at first and paralyze the entirely population a 'la super-villain style. And THAT's with stuff from riot-control, entirely legal and mainstream/public technology. Think about it.


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posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 11:18 PM
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originally posted by: DutchMasterChief
a reply to: NemoNeo

So what are the people you represent actually doing that "we the people" are rebelling against?

What exactly are they doing for this purpose you speak of and how exactly are their actions going to lead to this end goal of "awesome"?

What should we stop rebelling against exactly?


Each other! Any violence, any "aggression" towards the whole of society, or the system itself. Sure the system will eventually change, but it's not the people in that system that are the problem. It's the people out society that pay these people to do this stupid #!

We fix ourselves, we don't get exploited through our ignorance of our own power to truly self-govern, that simple.



posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 11:24 PM
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originally posted by: Serdgiam
NemoNeo, there is one, very special, aspect/process/behavior that I have yet to see mentioned anywhere (even occulted).

It connects to what you call "zero point energy." Science, as we currently know it, is aware of it and there are plenty of equations. But, we have yet to see it as a tool. Perhaps an innate block due to our maturity as a species.. Regardless, I am curious what you think it might be?


Yep, the brain must be activated and a very special secret happens within the body and the mind and the 'energetic' field when this happens similar to their crazy quantum-scalar wave devices.

I'm not going to go into that because it is the stuff of the higher degrees and I am just not in the position to say that THAT is what I'm here to talk about. Although most of you are aware of the hints towards this, the truth is basically within you. The "Christ" is a part of the endocrine and nervous system that operate in tandem to produce the experience of God and there is a path we can take that act as steps to activating this system. It's tried and patented so I think I'll have to leave that part right there until a bit later.

But yes, we are born into this kind of lack of understanding of our own true power and this is basically the underdeveloped awareness of ourselves and the Universe; our role in reality.

This guy's doing some strange stuff with his drawings but, I REALLY like his stuff!

3.bp.blogspot.com...

That is basically how it seems to be so complicated from a child's perspective. We basically don't see the "light" until the mind and brain goes through this process. It's a very mystical, but also very biological and scientific process. It's been hidden for as long as we've counted time and revolutions. We are in the initial "dark" realm shown in the first square in that drawing, and when we learn to "zoom" and "apply" our focus in certain ways almost like a magic eye (3d) picture book, we see the "white" of the eye form and the rest of the entire fractal picture comes into view. Then we "see" reality in all it's cosmic wonder. Yes, like being the being who is made out of the Universe itself.



posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 11:36 PM
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originally posted by: DutchMasterChief
a reply to: NemoNeo

Do you have any thoughts on how Quantum Mechanics may tie in to this reality?


The quantum point field is filled within "infinite" energy. As a result it is "infinite" degrees of regression away from this field. But somehow, if you arrange electromagnetics in the right pattern, pump them with the right solfeggios of harmonic frequencies that match the fibonacci or sacred geometrical patterns, you'll pull this energy out of the quantum foam.

Some how, it happens, and it's like opening a portal, or activating a free energy device. They can literally theoretically scale these devices up and obtain "infinite" energy from them, and even the small ones can power any craft or vehicle on Earth to the next world and back infinite times. It's just about putting the energy somewhere. What good is a google watt generator if it blows up everything you hook it up to? So it's about control.

But yes, it's a strange way the devices are built using electromagnets, a liquid metal fluid that I am not fully informed of, not mercury and a few other parts arranged in a sacred geometry pattern.

One way for one of the early devices to generate and tap into this field was spinning a kind of liquid metal that was kept in a superconductive state somehow and then spun inside a sphere at 55,000 rpm's. This and some kind of other apparatuses that I am trying to figure out right now somehow generated the field that we (and they) call zero-point. From this field you can do all of the things that I've talked about, but it has to be treated or worked with one way or the other in order to get each and every effect. This is an older model apparently, too, they don't use it any more, or it was upgraded.

But that was to create the field, not for mind influencing, I don't think, although it all ties together for instance with mind influencing or real time influence or virtual updating you have to have a supercomputer fast enough to process the light of the brain. They said that to do this they need to "bend" the laws of physics and "slow down time" in order to squeeze more processing power out of their devices. One very helpful agent told me that "quantum tunneling diodes" kept in a super-conducting state literally allowed them to send messages that would arrive at the recipient before they were sent. But technically they would still have to send them every time. Strange #. I still don't understand, but they take all those phenomena like the lenz effect, time dilation, superconductivity, quantum tunneling, vortex math (sacred geometry spirals of electromagnets), and generate a zero-point field that can pull energy "faster than light" or a computer than can process information "faster than light", literally beating the atoms in "our" time around in macro-space.

So it's like the computers open tunnels/wormholes to do their work, like electrons and then bend time so that the work is all done "before" we would normally expect it done if it were following "regular" time that we experience out here on a macro level.

Yes, they get quantum tunneling diodes to break the laws of time or just bend it and even though they say that can only happen in "small scale" "quantum" experiments within some lab with a small .0000000002 gram piece of metal. They can actually tweak the process, get a large scale device going with many of these little tunnels set up and use it to process information in a faster than light manner or generate a gravitational and electromagnetic vortex with a singularity in the center than can be expanded out and will literally let your neurons time travel based upon the frequencies you essentially modulate by being inside the field.

This is also how inertia can be "shut off" or negated, they said it was really like "replacing" or "reversing" it, not negating it. It's not "anti-grav" but "reverse grav" and there is a difference if you think about it. The same thing that bends space or "gravity" also bends time and "consciousness. Every craft that moves using the manipulation of gravity fields, also has the capability of moving into the non-physical "dimension" and taking everyone with it a 'la CONTACT the movie style. In fact that movie was literally about the original chair device.



posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 11:44 PM
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a reply to: NemoNeo

Interesting read, fascinating mind. Kudos sir.

Yeah, Time is dilated but I think we got it backwards. The natural state of all is beyond time and every concept we use to perceive and process it. All truly exists in what is better known to us as a quantum state. The state of flux between energy and matter. Its the convergence of matter and energy that creates pathways in time and space that we can inhabit.

In these regions of space /time where energy is being recycled from lower frequencies /states/ planes, cycles, whatever, into a reset point in denser matter...then back into a highly energized state of pure energy after the convergence of matter by stars and black holes....in these regions that compromise the known and unknown possible physical universe, we find star stuff being used to form patterns.

These patterns arent special beyond what they imply. That matter is only an echo of energy and even here in the highways of the space grinder, we find a sort of intelligence. A type of smart cohesion that binds more than us to space time and the effects of time dilation, but really liberates us unto a clearer picture of our true point of existence. The throne of consciousness.

The brain is more of a pulsating organ that translates neurological signals through bio-electric currents. Your consciousness is not a singular place or entity. It is a set of instantly networked spider webs of pathways first receiving signals into different regions of the brain,

here at this point the first part of consciousness is summoned, a decision based on all the synapses compiling a set of signals into a language this point in the networked brain can read. Then a new instantly networked spiderweb of pathways are turned on.

Another set of signals uses clusters and single synapses to relay the decision and enact the plan decided so many milliseconds ago. Then on this return signal the other aspect to this created consciousness is finalized. The continuation of the spark that you were busy pulsating to, and have been busy pulsating to since your hearts first beat.

This is the duality of mind, the duality of spirit. Since it exists outside of perceived time and space, one not need go crazy trying to understand the grinder. This is all just a lightning bolt of an instance where this one drop of consciousness existed this one way one time. An echo of a mind that has since taken its next step, a heart that has taken its next heart beat.

Everyday we wake up and are for all intent and purpose new people. We forget major details that defined us at any given moment the day before. Even throughout the new day we forget things as hours pass of the new day. We change the way we remember things as new experiences pile onto our minds queue. We are not a single person.

If we were to meet ourselves from 10 years ago we would not be the same person. You would have two very similar people who are completely different in all ways, hence different people.

You are a different person every day you wake up. You are different person every second. Every moment in your minds eye. Every other thought and breath.....

Eventually you realize that there is no space in between. The duality is also singular. The one that is two, the three that is one. That there is a unity to it all. A path, wide and tall that stretches beyond form and shape into instantaneous pure being.

Just some thoughts. I always recommend doing something practical like chores or normal conversing with normal people after these type of talks because if not you go crazy.

I dont think you are crazy but we all need to keep our composure and remember to not get lost in our minds. That is a real danger. Medication might help if someone who is trained in these sort of things says so and you trust them. If not just try to balance life out. Anything not helping, no matter how seemingly important must always cede to life going on.

Balance sir. Smile, find some good, make it, pass through the motions, in life and in its seasons, then move on. Dont set yourself up for things that dont help. Not really.

Be strong. Dig deep and find the strength that you seek. Rise up in yourself and hold it down. Keep your heart pure, mind cold and blood boiling. Be kind and practical. First help you so you can then help others. Then if you really want to fulfill a purpose /be useful, just commit to saying yes. They will respond to that. Just be awesome you. That makes the world awesome. LOL. You know. Screw this Illuminati crap.

I like your mind. You didnt need any validation. You are brilliant.


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posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 11:52 PM
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originally posted by: Op3nM1nd3d
a reply to: NemoNeo

Hmm ok I`ll play along...

well some of your thoughts hold truth, for the rest I have my doubts but if what you are saying is true, then I can see why they kept trying with you, the way you are wired has to be of some value for them.

You said these ”beings” age slower than rest of us and are looking for specific people to put them into their ”sacred” tech machines. Can you elaborate this part a bit more? I would like to know the details, why do they need recruiting if they are all powerful and all, surely there are other ways to wake up people than conducting all sorts of experiments.


Because of two reasons, true power always finds a responsible keeper, that's just how it works. The truth always comes out.

And because they must hide the power because power sometimes also comes into the hands of people who will use it to create a hell for all thinking that they are doing the right thing. There are people who will literally happily burn the world and this would be insanity but they would think they are doing the right thing.

So since ancient times, this secret has been hidden and can you say now that people are any better off? Are people any less danger than they were 1000 years ago? How many people have violent tendencies or would fearfully lash out if they only knew this tech existed?

So, then, you see, all the recruiting is done secretly. There's no "community center" we go to and see all the secrets of the world. They pick you, that's how it's always worked.


originally posted by: Op3nM1nd3d
I like the way you percieve God which more or less applies to my truth but I see no good reason why would his so called ”disciples” be sending us into God like state where we can meet the Creator and/or create other worlds if that is not in grand masterplan.


Read my recent response. It is always in his master plan. Whether you dream, meditate, go on a journey, have a spiritual experience, etc etc etc.

If you seek God, if you seek this realm. You find it. Sometimes people even take you under their wing and show you this. So how could it not be part of the plan? Plus, the signals are everywhere, the whole world's seen this stuff. Not literally every person. But everyone is literally given a chance in the civilized world. The logos the movies, the stories, etc.

You know where this all started being passed down? Myths and legends. You know where my first attempt to understand God and all this was, myths and legends. As long as you live on a planet where they have myths and legends about the "other realms" or the "beings of light" or the "hidden truth of the mind" then the Creator has left you a very shiny pathway right up to the highest pinnacle of creation. Simply put.

Yes, we can remain ignorant and in the dark, but when you look around. A SUNFLOWER is telling you secret to free-energy and cosmic consciousness!

www.encroach.net...

So in essence, you're born into this truth of magical interconnectedness, but you just can't see it until you get all the clues or someone points it out. Our ignorance is the illusion of the world.


originally posted by: Op3nM1nd3d
I mean if it was, why sending us into this realm in the first place? It sounds like cheating, bending the universal rules, the God`s rules, therefore yes...I can understand why they are referred to as ”fallen angels", because most likely they are.


1) If you believe it is cheating to use the natural processes to operate and activate the mind to know God then you are surely making yourself an enemy of the whole system of life itself. That is delusional.

2) Life itself starts and ultimately finishes this process when it sends you back to God, no one gets out without going through this process. This process normally takes a very long time or simply doesn't happen in one life at all. The sacred pathway through the brotherhood operates in a way that accelerates this entire process and condenses it down. Yes, that's painful, but so is wearing the holographic goggles and learning 10 hours worth of information in less than ten minutes for the first time. Does that mean it's bad? No. What you're looking at is incidental stuff that doesn't actually have to do with the experience, but with your opinions about the process and the other information. This is distraction.

3) Really focus in on the cheating part. This basically signified you're afraid of finding the whole truth because you think it might reject you or something. You are also hinting that this process is somehow 'out smarting' God, as if he was a mortal being or anything of the sort! It's quite incorrect. One can't "outsmart" God, there is no "cheating".

One can only hurt another person and when they do that, they'll have to deal with every bit of that pain in themselves before they complete the cosmic cycle.

Our inability to let go of fear based on what others would think or some "big" controlling sky God that watches over us, is actually the NWO. We're trying to avoid a complete meltdown of society, so stick to your freedom and use your mind to reach God without becoming ashamed like you're not good enough or something. The only person it involves is you and God and others will help you get there.

The rest of this would have to be experienced for yourself because it's just semi-spiritual testimony on how my experience imparted wisdom on to me. But I can't explain or intelligently respond to the claim that it's "hurting" someone or that it's somehow "insulting" or "cheating" God. This is literally the ladder that God built during his Great Work. We are building our 50% of the work. And it is within, not out.


originally posted by: Op3nM1nd3d
So yeah you may think that what you have found out is the same they were pointing you to but devil is not only in our minds...it is in the details also. Tell me one thing...why would God create this realm, this universe where earth is a beautiful place filled with waters, mountains, trees, plants, animals...only to be replaced by high tech futuristic cities?


Eh, that's just about opinion. You can't really imagine the feeling because you haven't seen it. Just look at some japanese anime of the futuristic cities their visionary artists produced through the 90's and 2000's. A city running off free tech with quantum healing and materialization devices would literally be a beautiful heaven.

And I didn't say there were going to pave over the whole Earth with metal. That makes no sense. Do you see the entire Earth paved with metal now? And don't you think some kind of terrible kill off would happen before the cities? So why would they have to make the whole Earth a city? Unless you think there WON"T be a terrible kill off to complete this plan, in which case, what are you talking about?

There will be great cities.


You also speak of animals and their instincts very negatively, is this something they fed you up with? As far as I know they are also God`s creation and we can and are able to live in harmony and no they are not our projections as they have a soul of their own.

My final thought is that I sense a great deception, just unsure whether it is you or your ”illuminati beings”.







posted on Feb, 9 2016 @ 11:57 PM
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Animals are animals I don't speak of them negatively. A human acting as animal is worse than any animal or devil, think about it. It's THE most destructive force on the planet.

Think about a bear, lion, rabbit, monkey, etc fear an invisible predator. Do they? No Impossible! THey fear only visible predators, one's that eat them.

Nothing eat's humans.

Yes there are predators of humans.

Until man is civilized he is slave to the mind.

These predators have evolved to feed on the fear of a human mind. This process is literally the immortalization of man, think about it.



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