posted on Feb, 8 2016 @ 08:14 AM
I too am agnostic, and am skeptical of the existence or a deity of divine consciousness while still entertaining the possibility.
Moral relativism may indeed be true - and judging purely by our conceptualization of good and evil, it would seem to be. But this topic is sort of a
thought experiment so, putting that aside, and assuming there were such a thing as objective good or evil in some sense that we simply lack insight
into for whatever reason, the idea of a divine creator knowing and intentionally limiting itself while knowing what the consequence of that would
be, still carries an ethical quandary for me. If it consciously and voluntarily gave up its omniscience and foreknowledge for the sake of allowing
emergent, unpredictable behavior, that means prior to that sacrificing of its power and perfect knowledge, it would have to have known what the
consequence would be, in exacting detail, even if after said sacrifice that knowledge is somehow limited or even erased. You mention it being
irresponsible. I'd say so! "Horrible suffering and untold catastrophe could be wrought, but I'm bored knowing everything, so I'll do it anyway," does
not sit well with me when conceiving of an ostensibly perfect, all knowing, all loving being.
So one thought I sometimes entertain is that such an entity, should it exist, simply doesn't need to be omnipotent and omniscient in the sense
we typically imagine. Perhaps it is simply the very nature of whatever divine force may exist that it intrinsically has limits, always has, and always
will, with respect to the ways in which it can interact with and act upon this plane of existence or dimension if you will. Perhaps it is simply so
vastly and incomprehensibly different from our own nature and existence, that anytime it even attempts to act on this reality, it manifests in ways we
cannot begin to comprehend, much less see in real time playing out. Or perhaps its perception of time is so different from our own, it conceptualizes
of events and scenarios on such a grander, longer time scale than we do, the discreet events of a single lifetime - except as they relate to the
larger whole of whatever span of time it seeks to affect - are literally almost unnoticed by it.
If the definition of a god as "a being which knows all, can do all, IS all, sees all, accurately predicts all, and also has perfect ethical and moral
conduct" is incompatible with our own concepts of morality and the world we see around us, then I would posit that either our concepts of morality are
in error, such a being does not exist, or, our definition of that being's nature is inaccurate. So, either morality is something we have contrived and
if such a being exists its morality is of such a higher order relative to our own as to be unrecognizable to us, such a being simply doesn't exist, or
such a being does exist but while its morality is somewhat analogous to our own, it is in some way intrinsically and by nature limited in its ability
to affect direct, immediate change except under very specific, very rare circumstances. And even then perhaps in ways we cannot detect or
It's also possible there was no moment of creation, and that this being and "something else" simply always existed - or that "everything else" (our
observable universe and, presumably, other universes relative to our own) exists as a part of it, and has also always existed, despite our own
perception of time being linear and having a 'beginning' (perhaps this too is an example of how our own nature simply causes us to get it wrong,
because we can't think outside that conceptual box and our particular dimensional manifold is four dimensional and has an arrow of time which moves in
one direction as far as we can tell) - and so there is no morality implicit in our "creation" because everything always simply already "was," and this
divine force has existed aside, or as part of, all that is for eternity, with our universe simply being the latest emergent property of that
infinitely complex system... not intentionally 'created,' simply emerging as the nature of that whole is wont to cause to happen.
We like to imagine that if such an entity exists it must meet certain criteria. To which I say: says who? Us? Because our track record when it comes
to cosmology has been stellar, right? (No pun intended.) :p
As stated I'm agnostic and skeptical, but I do entertain these sorts of thought experiments.