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Howard Dean: Labor Unions Are “Super PACs That Democrats Like” So We Don’t Go After Them

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posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 05:53 PM
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Howard Dean has been raised from the pit to go out and defend Hillary. In the process, he slips and actually tells it like it is. While defending Hillary's Super PAC's association with Wall Street and Big Money Interests, he goes off on Bernie's support by Labor Unions which he admits are really Super PAC's for the Democratic Party.



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Video: Howard Dean admits labor unions are “Super PACs that Democrats like”

Former Vermont Governor Howard Dean sat down with Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC to talk about the New Hampshire primary and seems to have lost control of his better partisan senses for a moment. Mitchell was quizzing him about all the money that Hillary Clinton has taken from special interest groups though her Super PACs and her paid speaking engagements, relating these bits of history to recent attacks coming from Bernie Sanders’ campaign. Dean is one of Clinton’s most vocal (and frequently incomprehensible) supporters and he didn’t take kindly to the suggestion.

“Was it a mistake politically to show herself to be so closely tied financially to the Wall Street interests?” Mitchell asked.

Rather than defending Clinton against the Sanders broadsides, Dean makes the classic mistake of failing to say Clinton did nothing wrong, but rather saying that Sanders was just as bad. His example, as you’ll see below, confirms everything conservatives have known about labor unions for as long as I can remember.

Let’s go to the video. The specific comments in question come at around the 1:30 mark if you want to skip ahead.




“Why does Hillary Clinton have to put up with a double standard?” Dean said. “I don’t hear anybody asking Bernie Sanders for his transcripts for some speech he made with a labor union. Frankly, for Bernie to say he doesn’t have a super PAC, labor unions are super PACs. Now, they’re super PACs that Democrats like, so we don’t go after labor unions, but this is a double standard.”

You know, Howard, I don’t think you understand what “double standard” really means. That implies that one person is being judged more unfairly than the other. In reality, we’re just agreeing with you and saying that both of them are corrupt and beholden to well funded special interests. Oh, and for the record, Clinton has gotten plenty of endorsements from the labor unions herself. The only reason the subject is notable this year is that Bernie Sanders got some of them also.

Keep this one in your pocket for the general election no matter who winds up getting the Democrat nomination. The labor unions are nothing but massive piggy banks for the Democrat Party and have been for as long as most of us can remember. I’ve never heard of them being referred to as Super PACs before, but Howard Dean has really hit the nail on the head here. Voters should be reminded of this at every opportunity.


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posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 06:01 PM
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It's true, modern day unions are literally organized crime. We can thank them for an economy that is absent of manufacturing jobs.



posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 06:03 PM
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a reply to: avgguy

I would have to respectfully disagree with you here. It's the companies, not the unions, who outsourcing the jobs.



posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 06:06 PM
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a reply to: Teddy916

Respectfully...

It's both.



posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 06:07 PM
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Labor Unions are GOOD for America. Who do you think saved the lowly middle class worker when the first great depression hit? Who do you think saved us with the institution of unemployment insurance, social security, Medicare and Medicaid? A democratic socialist named FDR. Wiki FDR. We elected him 8 times because he was a great president who took care of his people! We need to get labor unions back!
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posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: Teddy916

They wouldn't have to outsource if unskilled factory workers weren't demanding $25 an hour, plus a pension, plus callbacks after furloughs and retirement. Not to mention numerous other ridiculous benefits that are unearned.



posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: SpookyM

Eight times?

Labor unions, at their best, are extraordinarily useful. At their worst? As corrupt an organization as you'll find anywhere.

Speaking as a former Teamster who took part in strike vote/negotiations...there's a dark side to unions, too. Very dark.



posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: seagull

What unions are guilty of shipping jobs overseas?


Also curious how we can say that Unions are Super PAC's. I would somewhat agree they could be seen as a special interest but isn't a Super PAC something much larger than just that?
That last question isn't directed solely at you btw.



posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 06:13 PM
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originally posted by: Teddy916
a reply to: avgguy

I would have to respectfully disagree with you here. It's the companies, not the unions, who outsourcing the jobs.


Ummm, it's not about jobs. It's about a group of people banding together to pool their money to lobby politically. That is what a PAC is. A labor union fits that definition to a T, and speaking as someone who watched the Teachers' Union lobby strenuously for Kerry in 2004, between scary mailers and live callers several times per week telling me who to vote for, all paid for by my dues ... Yeah, it's PAC money and does what every other PAC does.



posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 06:20 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

They're the ones running, or helping to, the operating costs of those business' up to the point they want to leave.

Don't pretend that the unions don't play a roll in that, they do.
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posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 06:26 PM
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a reply to: seagull

I won't deny they fight for wages and better deals for their workers, but don't turn around and say that forces the companies to ship their jobs overseas just so they can make more profit by paying people cheaper.

I don't think unions fighting for a worker so they don't get paid the least they possibly can is a bad thing.
Also will admit unions are not perfect and don't have bouts of corruption.



posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: avgguy



...modern day unions are literally organized crime.


And that explains why a crime lord like Hilary is so in bed with them.



posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: avgguy
It's true, modern day unions are literally organized crime. We can thank them for an economy that is absent of manufacturing jobs.


Wow.

This is so incorrect that there's no word in the English language to emphasize its degree of BS.



posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 08:38 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

No. A labor union is not a PAC. Most of them have PACs, but hte PACs are funded separately from stadnard union operations - union dues cannot go towards political lobbying.

Also a PAC is a different thing from a SuperPAC. The concept of a "SuperPAC" has only existed for a little over five years.
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posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 08:38 PM
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originally posted by: avgguy

It's true, modern day unions are literally organized crime. We can thank them for an economy that is absent of manufacturing jobs.




originally posted by: spinalremain

Wow.

This is so incorrect that there's no word in the English language to emphasize its degree of BS.



Category:American labor union officials convicted of crimes

^^^ just the big ones that got caught ^^^



posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 08:49 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

19 people, stretching over more than a century. Do you know how many unions exist currently/ How many have existed over that greater-than-century span? Come on.



posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: TheTengriist

It's the "quality" that matters, not the "quantity".

And, the impact of the crimes outweighs the scarcity.




posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 09:10 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

I've been saying this for years.



posted on Feb, 7 2016 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: spinalremain

The truth hurts. Unions are literally just legal extortion.



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