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originally posted by: Godabove09
a reply to: BrianFlanders
It's that part about 10 million being effectively ignored because the 50 million want something else that is my main concern.
If you can have a situation that sees millions of people consistently denied their own way and power given to those they feel are against everything they stand for, believe in, approve of, is it possible that democracy is destined to fail as the system of choice for the "West" and non Islamic or Communist countries?
As an example the Socialist on the far left, Bernie Sanders, has a vision for America, a personal belief system, that is seen as extremist, divisive and anti-capitalist, even anti American.
On the other side you have a Trump or Cruz who are seen by the liberal media and Democratic base as, you guessed it, extremist, divisive, and even anti American.
How long would conservative voters be willing to watch what they perceive as the destruction of everything good about America, by leftists and their allies, before they decide that it's failing them?
Two terms and then more of the same?
How long before they decide that they can never live like this and that there are such irrevocable differences that they need their own, dare I say it, country where they can govern according to their principles and traditions and not watch everything they love be dismantled?
If you get the reverse how long would liberals be willing to live in a world that they see as utterly incompatible with their morals and philosophy?
It happens all the time in other parts of the world.
New countries are born from differences in religion or politics or race/tribal/ethnic loyalties all the time.
I don't even think it's about bad people corrupting a sound idea.
If the majority always squash the voice and traditions of the minority it can never truly be sovereign.
Is it the best we have?
Best of a bad bunch?
Something refined and tinkered with, and fought for by generations, that is the most civilised way to govern large numbers of people?
How far does it go?
You can't guarantee the people in the same street would agree unanimously, hell, even the same house????
Democracy may not be a "failed" system, but it certainly is "failing".
originally posted by: neo96
Yeah democracy fails.
Mob might makes 'right'.
Everyone loves it when they are in the majority.
Not so much when they are in a minority.
That's why this country was founded as a constitutional republic. Good luck trying to convince the mob of it though.
Every election we see 'news' outlets with their banner of 'democracy'.
As so very wrong.