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Syrian Sitrep-Obamas betrayal....

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posted on Feb, 5 2016 @ 11:10 PM
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Found this authors analysis of the Syrian conflict while perusing the news tonight.....

news.yahoo.com...

Its a bit of a long but cogent outline of the current war situation and the moves of all the players....

Sample paragraphs here:
Fast-forward a year. After a slow start — and despite wishful Western assessments that Moscow could not sustain a meaningful military effort abroad — the Russian campaign is finally delivering results for the Assad regime. This week, Russian airpower allowed Assad and his allied paramilitary forces to finally cut off the narrow, rebel-held “Azaz corridor” that links the Turkish border to the city of Aleppo. The city’s full encirclement is now a distinct possibility, with regime troops and Shiite fighters moving from the south, the west, and the north. Should the rebel-held parts of the city ultimately fall, it will be a dramatic victory for Assad and the greatest setback to the rebellion since the start of the uprising in 2011.

The author goes on at length about each of the forces which are swirling around the country.....
It remains to be seen what the outcome will be,......

But without the addition of an AAA capability as well as the tow missiles already in use...I feel its inevitable that the revolution will be defeated.....
All sides have not yet given up however and the outcome is not clear by a long shot....(the siege of Aleppo is about to happen, and should Assad achieve victory there, his will be a stronger negotiating position at the peace talks if they continue...)
Turkey , Jordan, Isreal, The YPG are all looked at in this report. as well as ALL the majors.....
Have a peek and let us know what you think the future holds for Syria.....b

edit on 5-2-2016 by bandersnatch because: (no reason given)




posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 01:52 AM
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a reply to: bandersnatch

Found this authors analysis of the Syrian conflict while perusing the news tonight.....

news.yahoo.com...

I've just read that report and its very encouraging to say the least.



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 01:53 AM
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a reply to: bandersnatch

A wonderful thing if with the help of Russian air power a secular regime can survive in the middle east

Too many Christians and other minorities butchered and forced to flee that region by the Sunni terror



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 02:23 AM
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a reply to: bandersnatch
this news is posted almost every day and seems to be up to date and factual..

youtu.be...



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 02:38 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

Great link


The Turks need to be stopped in funding terror over there. The Turks seem to have forgotten that they no longer control the Middle East, the Ottoman Empire ended a century ago and it is no longer acceptable to perpetrate genocide on the Christians



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 02:52 AM
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The Turkmen are the wild card....
The Saudis are the ace of spades
The Israelis are the real jokers.....
The Kurds are pure gold....



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 03:34 AM
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originally posted by: bandersnatch
The Turkmen are the wild card....
The Saudis are the ace of spades
The Israelis are the real jokers.....
The Kurds are pure gold....


The Turks are certainly a wild card. They probably don't want to be surrounded by Russia which Assad winning probably means.

Saudis are thorn in the side of the ME. Need occupying and colonising to stop funding of world wide terror.

Israelis are big issue, Yaalon said having ISIS on their border is much better than having Iran facing them off which is what an Assad win effectively means, so they will keep the war going through back door means.

The Kurds, well a nice people is some ways, loads of refugees around here, want their own state. Then again they murdered loads of Christians for the Turks in the genocide a hundred years ago and made Turkey and Iran christian free



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 05:49 AM
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Russia's entrance into this war was a game changer.

The USA bumbled around, stuffing things up all in the name of toppling Assad all the while never seeming to give a damn about the human cost.

Putin and Assad are the underdogs, but I think they will win this. And I say go them for doing so.
edit on 6-2-2016 by markosity1973 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 06:46 AM
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a reply to: bandersnatch

Its encouraging to hear this kind of news . He is not alone in his reporting of the conflict and others are keeping a close eye on other aspects that are not on the ground but in the halls and rooms of suits and ties . This is a new report as well and worth the read .


By Mike Whitney

“This is the beginning of the end of jihadi presence in Aleppo. After 4 years of war and terror, people can finally see the end in sight.”

— Edward Dark, Twitter, Moon of Alabama

February 05, 2016 "Information Clearing House" - "Counterpunch" - A last ditch effort to stop a Russian-led military offensive in northern Syria ended in failure on Wednesday when the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) backed by the National Defense Forces (NDF) and heavy Russian air cover broke a 40-month siege on the villages of Nubl and al-Zahra in northwestern Aleppo province. The Obama administration had hoped that it could forestall the onslaught by cobbling together an eleventh-hour ceasefire agreement at the Geneva peace talks. But when the news that Syrian armored units had crashed through al Nusra’s defenses and forced the jihadists to retreat, UN envoy Staffan de Mistura suspended the negotiations tacitly acknowledging that the mission had failed.

“I have indicated from the first day that I won’t talk for the sake of talking,” the envoy told reporters, saying he needed immediate help from international backers led by the United States and Russia, which are supporting opposite sides of a war that has also drawn in regional powers.” (Reuters) De Mistura then announced a “temporary pause” in the stillborn negotiations which had only formally begun just hours earlier. Developments on the battlefield had convinced the Italian-Swedish diplomat that it was pointless to continue while government forces were effecting a solution through military means.

After months of grinding away at enemy positions across the country, the Russian strategy has begun to bear fruit.
www.informationclearinghouse.info...

Pepe Escobar has a good piece out as well . Always a enjoyable read .

By Pepe Escobar

February 05, 2016 "Information Clearing House" - "RT" - Picture sleepless nights at ‘Sultan’ Erdogan’s palace in Ankara. Imagine him livid when he learns the Syrian Arab Army (SAA), backed by Russian air power, started a preemptive Battle of Aleppo – through the Bayirbucak region - cutting off Ankara’s top weaponizing corridor and Jihadi highway.

Who controls this corridor will control the final outcome of the war in Syria.
Meanwhile, in Geneva, the remote-controlled Syrian opposition, a.k.a. High Negotiations Committee, graphically demonstrated they never wanted to meet with the Damascus delegation in the first place – “proximity” talks or otherwise, even after Washington and Moscow roughly agreed on a two-year transition plan leading to a theoretically secular, nonsectarian Syria.

The Saudi front wanted no less than Ahrar al-Sham, Jaysh al-Islam and all Jabhat al-Nusra, a.k.a. al-Qaeda in Syria, collaborators at the table in Geneva. So the Geneva charade, quicker than one can say “Road to Aleppo!” was exposed for what it is.

And forget about NATO
www.informationclearinghouse.info...
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posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 07:07 AM
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originally posted by: markosity1973
Russia's entrance into this war was a game changer.

The USA bumbled around, stuffing things up all in the name of toppling Assad all the while never seeming to give a damn about the human cost.

Putin and Assad are the underdogs, but I think they will win this. And I say go them for doing so.


As a Christian it is wonderful news. Christendom in its homeland needs Assad to win this one. If Assad falls Christians will be pretty much ethnically cleansed from the whole of the ME. Good on Russia for defending the secular state and the Christians.



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 08:48 AM
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originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: bandersnatch

A wonderful thing if with the help of Russian air power a secular regime can survive in the middle east

Too many Christians and other minorities butchered and forced to flee that region by the Sunni terror


Assad's regime is as despicable as ISIS. They use torture on a regular basis and their ideal of 'proportional response' is to use barrel bombs until no-one's left alive in a settlement. Let's be honest - there are very few (if any) good options. Let's just admit that Syria is dead and arrange for it to be carved up. Kurdistan is going to appear, despite Turkey's objections.



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 08:53 AM
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a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Remember Gaddafi? Or is it too deep in the past for you to remember?

Please provide some real evidence to support your claims, and not just the reports by the western mainstream media, which are false and used to justify their support to ISIS, sorry the opposition terrorists, sorry the moderate rebels.

Syria is not dead and they will prevail. With the help of Russians.

And then, you will see that the people of Syria support Assad.

You compared Assad's regime to ISIS...damn



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 09:05 AM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

Assad's regime is as despicable as ISIS. They use torture on a regular basis and their ideal of 'proportional response' is to use barrel bombs until no-one's left alive in a settlement. Let's be honest - there are very few (if any) good options. Let's just admit that Syria is dead and arrange for it to be carved up. Kurdistan is going to appear, despite Turkey's objections.


Very true, Assad is not the best thing in the world. But surely he is better than having Christians exterminated and forced to flee from yet another country in the heart of Christianity.



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 09:09 AM
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originally posted by: Nikola014
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Remember Gaddafi? Or is it too deep in the past for you to remember?

Please provide some real evidence to support your claims, and not just the reports by the western mainstream media, which are false and used to justify their support to ISIS, sorry the opposition terrorists, sorry the moderate rebels.

Syria is not dead and they will prevail. With the help of Russians.

And then, you will see that the people of Syria support Assad.

You compared Assad's regime to ISIS...damn


It's a valid comparison. Assad's father was a mass-murdering POS and the apple didn't fall far from the tree. The people of Syria do not support Assad. They've been fleeing the fighting on all sides. And the reports keep coming in about atrocities on the part of Assad's men.
Let's face it, when your only hope of clinging on to power is Vladimir Putin, you're in a bad place.
edit on 6-2-2016 by AngryCymraeg because: Fixed stupid typo.



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 09:10 AM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
Let's just admit that Syria is dead and arrange for it to be carved up.


You sound like you should have been at the Conference of Berlin in the 1880's


The only reason Syria is in the mess it's in is because of outside interference. Turkey, Saudi Arabia, oil companies, the USA and UK all have the blood of one quarter of a million murdered Syrian people on their hands due to their backing of terrorists.



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
Let's just admit that Syria is dead and arrange for it to be carved up.


You sound like you should have been at the Conference of Berlin in the 1880's


The only reason Syria is in the mess it's in is because of outside interference. Turkey, Saudi Arabia, oil companies, the USA and UK all have the blood of one quarter of a million murdered Syrian people on their hands due to their backing of terrorists.


Well for one thing I'd have told Bismarck that everything would fall to pieces in Germany inside a generation.
On a more serious note this is the direct result of the Sykes-Picot agreement, which made very little sense. An independent Kurdistan should have been set up and states with some degree of rational boundaries should have been set up. But then again, after centuries of being mismanaged by the utterly corrupt Turkish administration in the area, perhaps we should be thankful that Syria was as 'stable' as it was for as long as it was.



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: AngryCymraeg

People of Syria have been fleeing not from Assad, but from the terrorists, including the moderate rebels and ISIS. They are fleeing from the war zone. Not Assad.

As I've said, we need serious and real evidence. Not the guardian with their report like it's a new Hollywood movie script.

So, on one side we have Putin and Russia. And on the other we have those countries that support and fund the terrorists. Yeah, I think i would choose Russia over them ANY time. That is, if I would like to have a sovereign country and not become yet another puppet, which Assad refused to accept.



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 10:57 AM
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The Syrian people are the biggest losers here....
The PTB will all get their paychecks and sleep in warm beds regardless of who wins....
To me, that's the biggest piss off of all....



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 11:03 AM
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a reply to: bandersnatch

Actually this is the one good thing Obama has done, not helping those so called Syrian rebels.

Their NOT Syrian!

There foreign Jihadi Wahhabi fighters, including ISIS, bought and paid for by the Gulf State rich Wahhabis who hate Assad



posted on Feb, 6 2016 @ 02:48 PM
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HUH?
Thought Obama funded same.....moderates and Jihadis too....



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