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originally posted by: TheBadCabbie
a reply to: Xcathdra
Are you suggesting, then, that ignorance on the part of the federal agents as to how to properly set the roadblock might have been to blame for this crapjob of a roadblock?
originally posted by: spy66
The roadblock/barricade was properly set. The question is: was it needed and is it leagal to use this kind of raodblock/barricade to solve this situation.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: spy66
The roadblock/barricade was properly set. The question is: was it needed and is it leagal to use this kind of raodblock/barricade to solve this situation.
Completely blocking the road with no avenue of escape is not a properly set roadblock. Its why I was curious how they classified the roadblock and if any unit called out a pursuit.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: spy66
Well there was an arrest warrant for finicum and they classified it as resisting arrest, along with Bundy who was apparently wounded for the same thing, resisting arrest. The complete road block apparently is valid given the facts (deadly force encounter).
Prohibited Pursuits (630.05)
a. Persons whose identities are known, who can be apprehended at a future time, and whose driving or conduct does not create an imminent threat of serious physical injury or death, will not be the subject of a pursuit. The sole exception to this prohibition is if the reason for the pursuit was his/ her involvement in a life-threatening felony.
Pursuit Intervention Strategies (630.05)
d. Barricading: Barricading is considered deadly physical force and subject to DIR 1010.10. (630.05 VEHICLE PURSUITS)
1. Barricading requires the approval of a supervisor. Furthermore, the barricade must be set up in such a manner as to afford the fleeing suspect ample time to see the barricade and stop his/her vehicle.
originally posted by: TheBadCabbie
a reply to: spy66
a reply to: Boadicea
a reply to: diggindirt
Agreed, guys, in that the roadblock was designed to allow escalation, or set by untrained operatives, which seems unlikely. I've been arguing the minutae in this thread mostly, but I think this is another line of writing on the wall for anyone who cares to look deeply enough into this scenario, that this guy was essentially executed. At the very least he was a victim of escalation due to trigger happiness on the part of LEO's. I think it's hard to dismiss it even that lightly, though.