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Military Aircraft spoofing ADSB Transponders pre SuperBowl???

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posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 10:16 PM
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Okay I was on my daily bike ride (Scott Spark 930 29'er and Carbon fiber for the bike geeks) and rolled around Levi's Stadium (Home of SuperBowl 50). Wanting to get a great pic of the festivities I rode up a 4 story Tech company parking garage and when I got to the top I noticed a plane taking off from KSJC (san jose international) that was slate grey with a canoe fairing underneath and a raked T-Tail. By the time I got my Iphone off the bike it was pretty far away. Looking at flightaware, the plane was identified as a NetJet Phenom 300 but it clearly was a Gulfstream IV and the slate grey paint was contrary to NetJet Livery. It hoped to Oakland International (KOAK). The pics are not great, but Zaphod will attest to my Bone fides about aviation. Does the USAF or others spoof commercial ADSB readings?






posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 10:21 PM
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a reply to: FredT

At times, depending on the mission. Are you sure it was ours? The RAF has a Sentinel playing with Red Flag.

When Air Force One snuck over to Iraq they pretended to be a Gulfstream V, and the transponder showed that.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 10:27 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

No not sure who it was I was unable to get the iphone off the bike mount to get a decent pic.
From my vantage point
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It was slate grey not in the usual NetJet Livery. The other aircraft was a


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posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 10:31 PM
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a reply to: FredT

That sounds like the Sentinel. Business jet platform about the size of a G-IV, canoe fairing, slate Grey paint. I wonder if they're borrowing it to help with security.
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posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 10:36 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58
No doubt but why the hop from San Jose to oakland. were talking 30 miles at most.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: FredT

Area familiarization. Let's them see the airports they may operate from as well as the airspace. They could also be calibrating their radar for the area.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 10:58 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: FredT

Area familiarization. Let's them see the airports they may operate from as well as the airspace. They could also be calibrating their radar for the area.


Makes sense. We get some interesting stuff in the bay area. A Superbowl seems to have brought quite a bit out. But why spoof a Net Jet ? I realize they cannot fly out of SJC without ADSB but why not operate out of Moffatt were you can still be Due regard even though Its Bravo Airspace


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posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: FredT

Less likely to get noticed. They don't really like to advertise that they're using another countries aircraft to help secure our territory, even if it is for a sporting event.



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 11:07 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

True that. Anybody else would not have noticed but as a Critical Care transport Nurse, my job revolves around noticing subtle details



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 11:08 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Presumably they also have different rules on what type of surveillance they can perform on a different countries citizens as opposed to our own?



posted on Feb, 4 2016 @ 11:11 PM
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a reply to: Bfirez

They're only monitoring areas that vehicles aren't supposed to be. They aren't able to use it for anything else but that.



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 07:05 PM
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There was quite a bit of interesting traffic in the skies that week.. and that day. A U-2 was out that day as well, flying out of moffat. I didn't get to see it, but my girlfriend did (who also has astounding eyesight, I have 20/20 and she can spot planes faster than myself or my father), she was at work, but began to franctically text me telling me to look up

She had no idea what it was (before I showed her a photo of one from what she described), only that it was "special".
She also said it had a chase plane on its tail.
I suspected it was a NASA bird flying out of Moffat. So when I showed her a photo of a NASA model, she said it was as bright a color.
I asked her if it had the same color scheme as the ones stationed at Beale AFB. She said those were too dark of a color.
I told her that maybe it could have been the wing shadows that threw off the color scheme?
She replied:
"Well...maybe, but you know what color it was? it was the same color as that old stealth fighter you showed me a picture of once...what was it called? the "Gray Dragon"?"

I also just showed her the image you posted here, and she said that wasn't the bird she saw.
Do anyone know of any U-2's with daytime camouflage?



posted on Feb, 19 2016 @ 10:49 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

In regards to prism, the UK could spy on the U.S. Citizens for the U.S. And then share the data and that would be legal-ish, but obviously the U.S. Can't spy oN its own citizens legally, so maybe they were using British jets to do the spying then sharing the data.



posted on Feb, 20 2016 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: HomeyKXTA

It's possible that it could be U-2 taking a test flight just coming out of the depot before it gets it's matte black paint job.

Like these:

foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com...



posted on Mar, 11 2016 @ 02:14 AM
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a reply to: Sammamishman

Thanks for the ID Sammamishman, that's a confirm on the U-2S.
Is it common for these beautiful birds to have an escort/chase plane flying with them like my girlfriend saw? if this bird doesn't even have RAM paint on it yet, it seems like it wouldn't need an entourage...perhaps the escort was a test flight photographer?



posted on Mar, 11 2016 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: FredT

Some what related...





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