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originally posted by: LABTECH767
Wonderful thread, this is pre iconoclasm and somehow survived those periods of eastern religious upheaval when the orthodox church was wracked by a movement whom wanted to adhere to the religious commandment against engraved images.
You are quite correct in your assertion that the Orthodox imagery and those in the capadocian region's are probably more like the original image of christ in there depiction's, he came as a Jew, a Semite though it has also to be pointed out that historically fair haired and blue eye's people were actually prevelant in the area for many thousands of years before the european's, the Kurd's whom may be the descendant's of the philistines and other native tribe's (Though the phillistines were really pheonician, at least in there writing and trade link's, so how native they were is an entirely different argument) and the Kurd's are often born blond haired, often with blue or green eye's.
My favourite depiction of Christ is actually the Turin shroud, I know it is contentious but the head of the team whom returned the faulty carbon dating actually made a death bed confession that he himself believed the dating was wrong since his team had not dated the shroud proper but rather the material which had been sown in to mend it after the fire damage it had suffered in the medievil period.
Interestingly the shroud portrays a man with distinctive semitic features, long face and nose, high cheekbone's and though it can not really be represented it would seem to show thick perhaps wavy hair and a thick beard just as a jew of the first century would likely have appeared.
Though you may or may not accept it there is another image, not of christ but of the apparition of the virgin mary, the image on the cactus cloth tilma of Huan Diego which is on display in mexico city.
Though it is possible the image was altered at a later date there are many curiosity's about it such as curved reflection's in the eye's which seem to be of people, the only paint possible to create the colours on the tilma would have been acrylic paints but not only did they not exist but an analysis of the tilma showed no sing's of paint with the exception of the moon and the cherub beneath the woman on the cloak which may have been added later.
Interestingly images including blured photographic images of the virgin's apparition in europe which sometimes appear to have golden hair seem to have the same feature's as this image.
Both Orthodox and Catholic as well as the Syriac Orthodox, the Ethiopian Orthodox, The Armenian Orthodox and the Coptyc church hold the virgin as Co-Redemtrix as she suffered the pain only a mother can feel as seeing her son die like that on the cross, all of these churches also hold to the traditional belief which can be dated back to the very earliest period of the church that she was raised up to heaven by her son.
Jesus said I shall come unto each as one of there own, why should his mother not also do so.
Miriam the mother of the Meshiach, the Emanuel, Jah incarnate - Jah Saves.
Often finds of sanctified sites like this are for a reason, there is great trouble in that part of the world and great persecution's so for the faithful this will serve as a reminder, that face of Jesus on that Icon is beautiful though obviously he look's more persio-greek on that one as it was of course much like the later works painted by someone whom may only have seen earlier iconographic images of maybe had a vision of the christ.
I always believed in a beared christ with long hair but back in the early-mid 90's I was having a lot of trauma and had a strange vision, I was just about to let go having had enough and in that vision I felt so tired, there before me was a man on a cross, I did not question, did not project my belief but simply accepted him as christ, his hair had been shorn as with a knife and his beard cut off to the skin, he was nevertheless crowned with a crown of thorns and I felt comforted as in the vision I rested my head against his chest, a voice said in the vision "This is what it is like to be dead", of course when My lord was crucified he did die but of course he also rose from death and is alive forever now, when he ascended he rose with the cloud's and that is meaning he became spirit from which he had come, when he come's again he will come in spirit and manifest once again but back from heaven not being born again of a woman.
Sorry if I am drifting but thank you for that beautiful imagery.
originally posted by: Ghost147
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Ghost147
For some reason, I imagined a more Jewish hairstyle, similar to modern Rabbi's but longer.
To me the picture's hairstyle looks somewhat Greek.
Yes, I agree. I would say the artistic style is probably simply a matter of local than anything else