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originally posted by: TheBulk
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Yeah, but a nation-wide movement cannot be blamed for the behavior of some of self-described members..
Are you kidding me? This is the STANDARD for the media and left's treatment of the right.
How crazy is it that the Tea Party was demonized pretty much 24/7 for several years and they didn't do anything even remotely approaching the activities of BLM. If nothing else, it really exposes our national press for what they are, left wing activists.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
Here's the thing though. BLM continues to be given enormous credibility when they cry racism. Why? If they are caught faking even some of their claims, it should call into question their position of authority in these things.
It's kinda like fake rape accusations are documented, but the rate of such compared to the real thing is low statistically..
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: theantediluvian
The point being made is that these things were done to certain groups.
Those groups were completely dismissed by certain other people, likely some debating in defense of BLM, because some of their elements either did or were perceived to have done things that were then used as a pretext to delegitimize the entire group or movement.
Those same people are now going to defend BLM and dismiss these people who are faking an incident for BLM in much the same manner that people who defended those other groups also defended those groups.
It is hypocrisy.
We either dismiss the entire group based on the actions of some of its adherents or we do not, but you cannot have it both ways. I can accept this was a fringe of some supporters depending on who the larger movement handles it. We will see. That still does not change my feeling that BLM falls outside my definition of a legitimate group movement, but maybe they want to man up and censure this group.
originally posted by: hangedman13
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
It's kinda like fake rape accusations are documented, but the rate of such compared to the real thing is low statistically..
Except that a special category of crime was created just for racist crimes. The general thinking has turned into any crime against a black is a hate crime.Time to start making people pay for falsely reporting a hate crime. Lets face it these days just the accusation of a crime makes you guilty in the eye's of the public. Being from the area this happened in I can tell you that it is not uncommon to see blacks behaving badly and trying to deflect from their bad behavior.
originally posted by: tadaman
Like they are freaking victims because they may be treated like crap. I honestly dont care. Idiots care and make others into idiots or make them care superficially.
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Just like, the NRA cannot be blamed because some school shooter may hold an NRA card.
We can fix it by addressing the system, not some individual extremist or group who doesn't really know what they are doing.
originally posted by: Slanter
Assholes exist in all races, If they lied they'll get punished.
this doesn't mean "Black lives matter" doesn't matter.
originally posted by: EvillerBob
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Just like, the NRA cannot be blamed because some school shooter may hold an NRA card.
A very good point!
If anyone has it, I'd actually be quite interested in any statistics about the number of "mass shooters" who were (i) members of, or (ii) otherwise actively supported, the NRA.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14
Here's the thing though. BLM continues to be given enormous credibility when they cry racism. Why? If they are caught faking even some of their claims, it should call into question their position of authority in these things.