Julian Assange wins ruling , he has been unlawfully detained UN panel rule

a reply to: paraphi

Indeed. Then everyone imprisoned is "detained against their will". Release all prisoners! Why is Assange different?

Because Assange is a political prisoner.

Love it when people act as apologists for sexual crimes.

Alleged sex crimes , and alleged by the authorities not the women involved , the allegations are being used as a tool to extradite his to the US.

The woman of whom Mr. Assange is accused of the offence of "lesser rape" (a technical term in Swedish law) sent an SMS to a friend saying that she "did not want to accuse JA [of] anything" and "it was the police who made up the charges".

The other woman tweeted in 2013 that she had never been raped. Both women’s testimonies say that they consented to the sex. A senior prosecutor already dismissed the ’rape’ accusation, saying that there were no grounds for accusing Mr. Assange on this basis. But a third prosecutor, lobbied by a politician who was running for attorney general, took over the investigation and resurrected the accusations against Mr. Assange.
justice4assange.com...

And before you rubbish the source the above information is known to be true to anyone who has followed the case.
There was no rape or sexual assault which is why the original charges were dropped only to be resurrected by marianne ny.

originally posted by: gortex
Because Assange is a political prisoner.

And / or a potential rapist.

If this was a normal person, or a politician, or banker, people would be baying for blood. I am ambivalent about Assange, but believe in women's rights and the fight against sexual violence and misogyny in all its guises. A crime has potentially been committed and due process must be allowed to run its course. Or, has Assange got something to hide?

He’s certainly managed to continuously distract attention away from WHY he is wanted by Sweden, and WHY the UK will arrest him and extradite him.

You can be good looking and charismatic and still be complicit in sexual crimes. You can be a political activist and darling of the left and still be a sexual predator.

a reply to: paraphi

And / or a potential rapist.

Even though there is NO claim of rape from either of the women involved , or any other women for that matter.
I think I understand.

For all those saying he hasn't been detained. Thats not true.
He was detained in a british prison for ten days, in isolation.
He was placed under house arrest too.
He is detained now because he has been told - Take one step outside and we'll punish you!

a reply to: weirdguy

Are you kidding? He's facing very serious allegations that's why he's in hiding

no its not a serious allegation is a smear after the WL dump the pentagon set up 120 man team to deal with Assange. He is wanted for an STD test.. Really farcical the authorities if bothered could question him in the embassy they have refused to.

Nothing about law and order and all about a political prisoner in the UK

a reply to: purplemer

There seems to be many myths spread about Assange and the allegations of rape and sexual assault. Lots of fiction being cited as fact.

This may help add some context...

New Statesman on the Assange case

One: “The allegation of rape would not be rape under English law”
This is flatly untrue. The Assange legal team argued this twice before English courts, and twice the English courts ruled clearly that the allegation would also constitute rape under English law.

He then repeatedly challenged the European Arrest Warrant in the United Kingdom. He lost at every stage, but each of his many legal arguments were heard and considered in extensive detail.

And in doing this, Assange had the assistance of first rate legal advice and advocacy from some of the UK's leading human rights lawyers, and he also had the benefit of having been granted bail in England in the meantime. The extradition was fought by him all the way to the Supreme Court.

Assange has been afforded more opportunities to challenge the warrant for his arrest than almost any other defendant in English legal history. This is hardly "persecution" or a "witch-hunt".

It is important to remember that complainants of rape and sexual assault have rights too, even when the suspect is Julian Assange.

a reply to: paraphi

It is important to remember that complainants of rape and sexual assault have rights too, even when the suspect is Julian Assange.

Although in this case there are no complainants of rape or sexual assault other than those by the Swedish authorities because the suspect is Julian Assange.

a reply to: gortex

I think that's a bit of a myth and smokescreen. He is wanted to answer to the allegations. You need to read up on this. This is not some innocent peck on the cheek.

Clearly there are allegations that Assange needs to answer.

Now, as I have said, I am ambivalent about Assange. However, I detest sex crimes and crimes against women. Assange needs to allow due legal process to continue. If Assange gets away with it, then it's just another celebrity treated differently that Mr Normal. Just another Saville - someone who uses influence and "non-belief" to get away with it. He may be innocent, but he may be guilty.

This is just one of the allegations. You may not think it's rape, but the law does.

On 17 August 2010, in the home of the injured party [SW] in Enkoping, Assange deliberately consummated sexual intercourse with her by improperly exploiting that she, due to sleep was in a helpless state. It is an aggravating circumstance that Assange who was aware that it was the expressed wish of the injured party and a prerequisite of sexual intercourse that a condom be used, still consummated unprotected sexual intercourse with her. The sexual act was designed to violate the injured party’s sexual integrity.

Source

Here's some old context...

The woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, said that she became a target for both her former allies and opponents who, along with her alleged abuser’s acolytes, turned against her and presumed she was lying about the allegations she made.

Source Indie

a reply to: paraphi

We are just going around in circles , you are free to believe what you choose the truth will out.

originally posted by: gortex
We are just going around in circles , you are free to believe what you choose the truth will out.

In deed. However, my route to the truth is due legal process, which Assange is avoiding.

Other peopl'e route is to hope people will forget about it and the women who were allegedly sexually assaulted can be intimidated into silence.

Only due process can ascertain Assange's guilt, or innocence.

Assange is not detained. He's hiding in the embassy from his arrest warrant. If he is innocent then why not try to clear his name in a court of law with all his lawyers. Not exactly the actions of an innocent man.
And he possibly has committed crimes under US law, if the US seeks to extradite him and prosecute him under US law that is perfectly legal and lawful.
The UN panel is a joke most legal people know this, they are not a court of law and don't even have a judge, if it was some anti immigrant agitator they probably would've said the exact opposite or an alleged serial killer they wouldn't even touch it. The whole thing a propaganda exercise right down to the bizarre media show.
Now Assange is still stuck there... lol. This whole thing is pretty much his own making. My 2c