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Atomic/nuclear explosion in outer space, could it create a black hole?

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posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 05:53 PM
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The question in the headline says it all, but I have been wondering for years what would happen if you detonated a nuclear,atomic or hydrogen bomb in the void of space. I don't know the difference between the three that well but can someone who knows about such things explain what would happen? We test bombs every where else what about outer space?
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posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 05:55 PM
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They exploded a few in outer space. No black holes.
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posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 05:55 PM
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posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 05:56 PM
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originally posted by: areyousirius360
The question in the headline says it all, but I have been wondering for years what would happen if you detonated a nuclear,atomic or hydrogen bomb in the void of space. I don't know the difference between the three that well but can someone who knows about such things explain what would happen? We test bombs every where else what about outer space?


No it would not. A hydrogen bomb is basically a tiny little sun. In the 1950s, nuclear bombs were detonated at the edge of space. There were spectacular aurorae, but space itself was unharmed.



posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 05:56 PM
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a reply to: areyousirius360

I honestly think not much would happen.

You'd get a flash and then a release of radiation into an already radio active environment.

No black hole.



posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: DJW001
So it has been done?



posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 05:58 PM
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posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 05:59 PM
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No, but they created a bright flat surface.

They've exploded a few in space, that's why we receive so many Alien visitations I've read.

Mainly on here I must add.



posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 06:00 PM
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I guess that answers that. Sorry bad thread.



posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 06:00 PM
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originally posted by: SLAYER69
a reply to: areyousirius360

I honestly think not much would happen.

You'd get a flash and then a release of radiation into an already radio active environment.

No black hole.


No black hole for you!!

Black hole nazi.



posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 06:01 PM
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a reply to: areyousirius360

yeah.........
You might want to look up how scientists think black holes form.

Google is awesome for that.



posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 06:02 PM
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originally posted by: areyousirius360
a reply to: DJW001
So it has been done?


Believe it or not, yes: Operation Starfish Prime.



Those were the days.
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posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 06:42 PM
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a reply to: grey580
I unerstand it is a collapsed star. Also a black hole is the source of orbital rotation. Theoretically. Am I correct?



posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 06:57 PM
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a reply to: areyousirius360

Gravity is a consequence of mass, density. Black holes are the densest objects that we know of, as far as my learning takes me on the subject.

As far as I know, there is growing evidence to support the idea that galaxies form around huge supermassive black holes, which keep all the components of galaxies, stars and their planets, asteroids, nebula and the like, from escaping the pull of their influence. The strength of a black hole, it's density and so on, can be estimated from the amount of space over which they have recordable influence.

Now, as for rotation being caused by gravity, I would say you are spot on, but it is fair to say that to a degree, any source of gravity can cause certain types of material to spin. Take the plug out of your sink and you will see one expression of the effect, without the necessity for a black hole to be present.



posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 06:57 PM
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originally posted by: areyousirius360
The question in the headline says it all, but I have been wondering for years what would happen if you detonated a nuclear,atomic or hydrogen bomb in the void of space. I don't know the difference between the three that well but can someone who knows about such things explain what would happen? We test bombs every where else what about outer space?


A " nuke" short for thermonuclear, bomb, is actually a 2 stage device.

An Atom bomb, like Trinity or the ones dropped on Hiroshima or Nagasaki , is the first stage. It creates the massive amount of heat and pressure required to set off the main bomb, the hydrogen bomb.

And you have the bikini atoll that is now a radioactive crater in the ocean.

This is not unlike a super nova , except in shear scale and power.

There are several types of Nova's, the type I will describe is the hyper nova.

This is when a truly massive, like thousands or millions of times the mass of our sun dies.

Iron, the star killer, is what kills it.

It begins by fusing hydrogen into helium while releasing energy, as it ages it runs low on helium and begins to fuse helium. This goes on until it gets to silicon which fuses to make iron. At this point it is all but over.

It begins to create iron, which instead of giving off energy by fusing, doesn't fuse. The stars core loses its energy creation and the gravity of its mass causes the outside layers to collapse very fast and hard on the core because they are no longer held up by fusion energy.

When this happens the extreme pressures causes the heavy elements to begin to be created like gold platinum uranium etc....

And results in a rebound as the core explodes very violently.

They shock of the explosion creates so much pressure that the matter at the core is squeezed so hard it will momentarily be made out if solid neutronium. ( a substance made entirely of neutrons)

Then the monster emerges, as the neutrons cannot support their own mass and get squeezed even closer.

At this point, we don't know what happens, because the event horizon obscures all investigation.

But it is now a black hole.

If we made a black hole out of Earth, we would have to squeeze its entire mass into an area the size of a marble.

No nuke, not even the Tsar Bombay, the largest by far nuclear device ever set off by man is even close to being powerful enough to create a bkackhole.

This is a very " idiots guide to blackholes" explanation, and I left a lot out for the sake of brevity.

If you would like to know more just ask.



posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 07:06 PM
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That was pretty good the only question I have is have we seen a black hole and is it true that the common theory is that our solar system orbits around a black hole and that is where we get the spinning orbiting planets?
That reminds of the order of the Black Sun, a mystical German society that believed in a black suns existence.
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posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 07:09 PM
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Our solar systems planets orbit around The Sun, our home star. It is nothing like as large, dense, or powerful in terms of its gravitational pull, as a black hole. Our GALAXY however, that does orbit around the centre, which contains a behemoth of a black hole.



posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 07:10 PM
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I blame the Romulans.

(The Romulans used huge explosions to create their artificial singularities that they use to power their starships and other stuff.)
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posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 07:20 PM
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Below is a link that will give you an idea of how trivial our nukes are.



SGR 1806-20



posted on Feb, 3 2016 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: areyousirius360
a reply to: Sargeras
That was pretty good the only question I have is have we seen a black hole and is it true that the common theory is that our solar system orbits around a black hole and that is where we get the spinning orbiting planets?
That reminds of the order of the Black Sun, a mystical German society that believed in a black suns existence.


No.

You ever see how the surface of a glass of warm liquid swirls around?

This is because if convection.

Heat creates convection, because heat is stored energy. Warm air rises, just like warm liquids, to do so, they must displace cold air or liquids as they do so, this causes convection currents where warm rises cools and then falls asleep warmer air or liquids rises and displaces it.

The same as we understand it at present was what happened in our solar system.

A cloud of gas and dust was pulled together towards the center of its combined mass or center of gravity.

As this happened it condenced, and anytime you take any volume of anything and condenced it, it will get warmer, just as if you increase its volume it will cool.

This is why you sweat to dissipate heat, as the water evaporates it expands and cools and takes the heat away with it diffusing it into the surrounding area.

So this cloud is condensing, and heating up, as this happened, one convection current was strong than the rest and forced all others into its direction. Thus it flattened out into a disk around the center of gravity as it spun and condenced.

This was the sun, the rest was the disk that became the planets and moons comets etc.

The spin off a bkackhole is actually decided by the rotation of the sun that spawned it.



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