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Is ATS A Political Bubble for Democrat Opinion?

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posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:00 PM
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I've heard ATS described as such several times during this political season...and given what the Iowa caucus has just shown us all about democrat preferences among voters...I have to believe ATS truly is a political bubble for democrats.

Most of us who haunt the political forums know from ATS polls and political discussions, that self-described Hillary supporters among those who will vote democrat here are almost non-existent...and when compared with those who self-identify as Bernie Sanders supporters,
Sanders supporters far outweigh the Clinton supporters here. Practically everyone here would have to agree with this.

With the Iowa caucus split exactly down the middle between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders,...by comparison, ATS leans grossly in favor of Sanders...thus, meaning ATS' community of democrat voters does not constitute a representative sampling of democrat voters nationwide.

Perhaps, to some extent, a similar argument could be made against ATS self-described Republican voters,...but I really don't think it would even be remotely equivalent.

I'll admit that my perceptions are coming from a personal bias connected to my own Republican background, but the evidence here tends to back up my opinion.

Do ATS democrats here, feel ATS is a microcosm of the national population of democrats? Or do you agree that ATS is not a fair sampling of national democrat views, opinions and mindset?

My thread is honestly not meant to be antagonistic or judgmental; it's just an observation on my part and I'm curious if others on both sides of the political aisle agree or disagree.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinion.
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posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:03 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

I may be in more of a minority than others here as a libertarian but, I am glad that so many people are expressing their understandings about society, erroneous or not.

You can't learn without getting into the intellectual fray.



posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:05 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

I really appreciate ATS because it has shown me how people with different ideologies actually think about others with differing ideologies.



posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: IAMTAT

I really appreciate ATS because it has shown me how people with different ideologies actually think about others with differing ideologies.


That's how I feel as well.
It's great to see a spectrum of thought. It's more concentrated here.


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posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:10 PM
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I'd say apparently not...

Out of the few Democrats/liberal-leaning folks on here -- I haven't seen very many (if any) Hillary supporters. How she got much support in Iowa is beyond me.

Apparently people actually would vote for her.


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posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:11 PM
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ATS in no way represents the public at large and is much more fringe politically. Ron Paul, Bernie Sanders are two good examples where ATS swings much farther in one direction than the nation at large.



posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:15 PM
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Seems to me there is a equal number both sides.

There seems to be a few really hard core right and a few hard core left members then lots of people like me in the middle or who are far right on some issues and far left on others (plus right and left is diffrent from person to person and country to country ) which means one thread someone can express a very right wing opinion and get lots of support from the more moderate people but another right wing thread sinks, same with the left.

End of the day people all have diffrent views and opinions and unless your a brain dead sheep thats lets the media do the thinking for you, its unlikely two peoples opinions will match up 100%. That can tend to make you few that your in the minority simply because yes you are a minority in your overall opinion as everyone is is.



posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:15 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad

I think the internet in general does a good job magnifying and amplifying the extremes of both parties. It's a lot easier to make a lot of noise in cyberspace than on the streets.



posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad

My thoughts to a tee.

Unless Cruz gets the Republican nod, I'm voting for Hillary ... and I'd still have to think about it before punching Cruz' name on my ballot. I've said this several times and not one person has wondered why. LOL



posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:18 PM
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I think you are right.

Democrats on ATS are probably more informed. They probably know more than the average Democrat about the true nature of Hillary Clinton and the extent of her deceit.

The average voter in the democrat's base are probably not that well-read. They go by other things such as a person's experience in politics, their ability to baffle with bullsp*t, the desire to see the first black or the first woman president, easily offended by something the libs have told them to be offended by, etc.

Therefore, I don't think people that participate on ATS are representative of what is out there in the general population of uninformed voters. ATSers seem to be a different breed altogether. That is why you won't see many Hillary fans. They KNOW.

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posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:19 PM
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ATS is full of ideologues. I don't mean that in a derogatory way. But yes ATS does not represent the majority of Americans as you saw with the Iowa Caucasus



posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: MrSpad

I think the internet in general does a good job magnifying and amplifying the extremes of both parties. It's a lot easier to make a lot of noise in cyberspace than on the streets.


It is easier, but has very little effect. I think that is the problem these days. So many people posting their views online they mainly become worthless and of no value to others.

If done on the streets, action of some kind needs to be taken by the government, even if just policing. It gets their attention much more.

Too many people these days think their opinion matters to others online, when in fact it usually never does.



posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:26 PM
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I like to think the users of ATS are smarter than the public at large, despite whatever political stance they may take. So just know that you are probably smarter than the average citizen.



posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:28 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Oh gods, no. Neither republicans nor democrats are an accurate representation of their respective parties on a national scale.

ATS represents republicans and democrats who look beyond the MSM for their worldview, for better or worse. We do not represent the American consensus.



posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:41 PM
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originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: IAMTAT

Oh gods, no. Neither republicans nor democrats are an accurate representation of their respective parties on a national scale.

ATS represents republicans and democrats who look beyond the MSM for their worldview, for better or worse. We do not represent the American consensus.


And don't forget the independents like myself. I'm more of a Green Party guy than a Democrat. I don't even trust most of the Democratic leaders or initiatives, and will probably vote for the Green Party or one of the Socialist 3rd parties if Bernie doesn't get the nomination.



posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:43 PM
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One example: The "war on women". ATSers KNOW there is no war on women. ATSers know that the liberals are manufacturing that meme and young women (I was young once, too....I know how gullible they can be) latch onto it like some cause du jour.

ATSers suspect that the "war on women" is hyperbolized to add a "cause" to raise money for that part of the Clinton's family foundation. It gives Chelsea a job....a job making big money, I might add.



posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:47 PM
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originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: IAMTAT

Oh gods, no. Neither republicans nor democrats are an accurate representation of their respective parties on a national scale.

ATS represents republicans and democrats who look beyond the MSM for their worldview, for better or worse. We do not represent the American consensus.


And don't forget the independents like myself. I'm more of a Green Party guy than a Democrat. I don't even trust most of the Democratic leaders or initiatives, and will probably vote for the Green Party or one of the Socialist 3rd parties if Bernie doesn't get the nomination.


Absolutely. I think most of us fall into third-party status of some sort but our votes don't normally reflect it (not our faults; it is often pointless to vote third-party).

So I guess when I think of republican/democrat, it would be more accurate to say conservative/liberal since nearly all third parties fall somewhere on that spectrum. I would vote Green Party if it would make a difference but I still identify as "democrat" since it's the closest thing that "counts" in American politics.

It's lame, for sure.



posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 04:53 PM
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I think we tend to go with those not in the middle of American politics on ATS. We're a bit more informed and research and argue and debate amongst ourselves more than most Americans. Main stream media promotes Bush and Hillary...Trump is an anomaly because of his previous fame. Main stream can't help but have constant stories about him, he's like Bruce/Kaitlyn Jenner.

ON ATS we see beyond that and look for actual candidates with values and voting records and beliefs and policies that align with ourselves. taht's why we are overwhelming Sanders and Cruz and Paul etc.

I don't think ATS is a sample of the general public. And that's a shame.



posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 05:13 PM
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I think thus far, all that can be said for sure is that ATS does not represent a cross section of registered democrats in Iowa. Which, to be honest, is true anywhere. Registered voters will tend to sway differently than the public at large. The caucus/primary season is all about pandering to that base. The actual race for electoral votes panders to the middle.

ATS is fairly centrist when compared to the political spectrum. Even our most hardline for either party, from my perception, don't touch the most rabid within the party ranks. Even more honestly: take away guns and abortion, and US members really don't disagree on much.



posted on Feb, 2 2016 @ 05:14 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

ATS sees, two parties = two cheeks on the same as*s!



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