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originally posted by: jellyrev
As a Ron paul 2012 supporter I'm shocked, shocked I tell ya...
Actually there is a thread out there about bernie where I warned about this exact thing happening. I said bernie needs to crush hillary 2:1 to have a chance, it has to get to a level where it can't be spun.
originally posted by: Flatfish
a reply to: AlaskanDad
I'm beginning to think the whole idea of caucusing instead of voting is specifically designed to control the outcome of the process.
I can't think of another reason to institute such a looney process.
What the hell is wrong with holding a straight up vote and counting the ballots?
And when it comes to "national" elections, why don't we have a process that's uniform across the board, in all states?
The only reason to create such a convoluted process like the one we currently have, is so that it can be manipulated.
As Bernie's revolution gets underway, fixing this problem definitely needs to be included on our "to do list."
Clinton voter fraud in Polk County, Iowa Caucus
originally posted by: Informer1958
This election is getting more corrupt each day.
I guess there is no oversight for the corrupt bunch, We The People have lost this election to the billionaires who always get what they want. It must be nice to be so privileged.
Okay, so here is what happened. Gentsch told us that some members of the Bernie camp thought they saw something strange or “issues” with the Clinton vote. Gentsch said after the issues surfaced, he asked the crowd if they wanted a recount.
“I am just there to do the will of the body. If the Bernie folks wanted a recount, they would have asked for one by raising their hands,” he told LawNewz.com. The vote on whether to do a recount failed by a majority. They never did a recount, and Clinton won 232 votes in that precinct.
“It was a very small but loud Bernie Sanders minority that had the issue but apparently they didn’t have the support of the rest of his camp,” Gentsch said. When we asked Gentsch specifically what the issues were with the Clinton vote, Gentsch said he didn’t know. He also provided LawNewz.com with these handwritten notes from Monday night.
As for whether what happened amounted to “fraud,” Hagle said “unless there was a purposeful undercount or fudging the calculation to distribute the delegates it would [not] seem to rise to the level of fraud.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Jansy
Its easier to hide the votes nowadays, they're digits / pixels on a screen.
Remember Bush Gore fraud in Florida? It went on for a month until Gore conceded, Bush's brother Jeb was governor at the time…
Now all they have to do is change the results in software.
Wipe… all better.