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originally posted by: eNumbra
6 coins with 2 outcomes each means the probability of getting 6 heads is at bare minimum 1 in 7. (6h-0t, 5h-1t, 4h-2t... etc.)
Each toss has a 1:2 probability but as you add the tosses together (which you have to do in this case) the odds begin to stack against the outcome.
originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: preezy120
This is incorrect. Each flip is 50/50, but you're not constructing a set of 1. Even though all of the flips happened in different locations it's still a set of 6 flips. There are 7 possible outcomes, here they are along with the odds of each happening
Clinton 6, Sanders 0 - 1 in 64
Clinton 5, Sanders 1 - 6 in 64
Clinton 4, Sanders 2 - 15 in 64
Clinton 3, Sanders 3 - 20 in 64
Clinton 2, Sanders 4 - 15 in 64
Clinton 1, Sanders 5 - 6 in 64
Clinton 0, Sanders 6 - 1 in 64
originally posted by: tanka418
originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: preezy120
This is incorrect. Each flip is 50/50, but you're not constructing a set of 1. Even though all of the flips happened in different locations it's still a set of 6 flips. There are 7 possible outcomes, here they are along with the odds of each happening
Clinton 6, Sanders 0 - 1 in 64
Clinton 5, Sanders 1 - 6 in 64
Clinton 4, Sanders 2 - 15 in 64
Clinton 3, Sanders 3 - 20 in 64
Clinton 2, Sanders 4 - 15 in 64
Clinton 1, Sanders 5 - 6 in 64
Clinton 0, Sanders 6 - 1 in 64
Sure hope you don't clam to be a Mathematician . . . Tell us; just how does 6 binary events have 7 results?
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: tanka418
originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: preezy120
This is incorrect. Each flip is 50/50, but you're not constructing a set of 1. Even though all of the flips happened in different locations it's still a set of 6 flips. There are 7 possible outcomes, here they are along with the odds of each happening
Clinton 6, Sanders 0 - 1 in 64
Clinton 5, Sanders 1 - 6 in 64
Clinton 4, Sanders 2 - 15 in 64
Clinton 3, Sanders 3 - 20 in 64
Clinton 2, Sanders 4 - 15 in 64
Clinton 1, Sanders 5 - 6 in 64
Clinton 0, Sanders 6 - 1 in 64
Sure hope you don't clam to be a Mathematician . . . Tell us; just how does 6 binary events have 7 results?
Because 0 is also a possible result. Therefore the range is 0 to 6 which is 7 different numbers. There are 64 distinct outcomes which sum to 7 possibilities.
In your response to me you even quoted the 7 possibilities as I listed them. Count it for yourself.
originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: tanka418
There are 7 events. Lets scale it down to a single event, 1 or 0. It either happens or it doesn't happen, that's two possibilities. Now lets add an event, you have 4 outcomes
00
01
10
11
Sum those up and your possible outcomes are 0 (25%), 1 (50%), and 2 (25%).
Repeating what I said before
Clinton 6, Sanders 0 - 1 in 64
Clinton 5, Sanders 1 - 6 in 64
Clinton 4, Sanders 2 - 15 in 64
Clinton 3, Sanders 3 - 20 in 64
Clinton 2, Sanders 4 - 15 in 64
Clinton 1, Sanders 5 - 6 in 64
Clinton 0, Sanders 6 - 1 in 64
Those are the outcomes along with their odds of happening. Which of these do you not agree is possible?
I have now shown this mathematically 3 times, and your only response has been "that's wrong". Prove it.
originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Aazadan
Out of six throws at 50/50 probability should gets you three. So to get a run of six, the probability should drop 50% after each throw. First throw 2/1 second throw 4/1 third throw 8/1 fourth throw 16/1 fifth throw 32/1 six throw 62/1 So her chances of winning all six are 62/1. Highly unlikely but still possible. But you can see from then on it gets worse seventh throw 124/1 etc .etc.
originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: tanka418
I hope you're not a math teacher then, because the probability of 5 heads out of 6 flips is not 3.125% or 1 in 32, it's 6 in 64 or 3 in 32, and again you are missing 0.
originally posted by: tanka418
No, I'm not a mat teacher, however mathematics is one area where I do have a degree, And you so obviously do not! So, before you embarrass yourself any more, ask a math teacher!!
Where did you get"5"? We are not talking about 5 of 6 here, we are talking about 6 of 6.
To reiterate: Ask a math teacher!.
originally posted by: pl3bscheese
Context! There's a situation which can be contextualized however one pleases. If neither of you are trolling and honestly can't see the other individuals valid reasoning, then this is just a sad unfolding.
I'm going to throw something else in the mix and walk off...
So 6 of6 is 1/64, but I find it kinda interesting that if you're making a larger number of tosses, the probability of course increases towards getting 6 in a row one perspective or the other.
Makes me feel like there's a group for me out there... somehow... somewhere outside my own ramblings.
Then I remember, I'm not stuck on either or. Damned, I'll stay a loner then lol
I am not trolling, I cannot say the same for tanka418, but this is my last post on the subject either way, because if I am not getting through then there's no point in continuing, and if I am getting through then there's no need to continue.
Oh, and by the way; there are only 6 possible outcomes for 6 binary events, as contrasted to the 64 outcomes you seem to have amplified this into.
originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
There are seven possible outcomes because there are six binary events. There would be thirteen outcomes if you had twelve binary events. It's [No. of Binary Events + 1]=Total Outcomes.
If you have one binary event, how many outcomes are there?
Two.