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British ISIS Mum Tareena Shakil Jailed for 6 years is this the right thing to do?

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posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 11:59 AM
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www.express.co.uk...

For those not in the UK Tareena Shakil is a British Mother who travelled to Syria with her 14 month old baby to join ISIS. During her time in Syria she posted photos of her baby with an AK47. Eventually she became disillusioned with her time in Syria and returned to UK. Shw was found guilty last week of belonging to ISIS and was today sentenced to 6 years in prison a more in depth report is in the source above.

The purpose of my thread though is to question whether ATS members think this is the best way of dealing with these situations. Myself I am not so sure I wonder if in the long term it is creating more problems than it is solving.

For one thing prison is supposed to act as a deterrent in the hope that someone leaves prison as a reformed character. Surely by imprisoning her she is more likely to become radicalised. The ideology she follows teaches to hate everything in the West. She is now going to be separated from her child and miss at least 3 years of and her life will this then not make her hate the West all the more?

There have been many reports about radicalisation taking place in Prisons in the UK so she is also probably going to become more radicalised if she is surrounded by people with similar mindsets to her and there is also the chance of her radicalising other prisoners.

Then there is her child who is going to be scarred and damaged by being separated from his mother. Is he going to grow up angry and resentful to the West for imprisoning his mother and is he then not more likely to be radicalised himself.

There are many presently in our prison system who have been radicalised and at some point they will be released. Are the UK in actual fact just storing up many problems for the future rather than dealing with the underlying reason as to why these people became radicalised in the first place.

My own view is that rather than spending tax payers money on imprisoning them they would send out a clearer message if they in fact removed passports from anyone who it is proven to have travelled to Syria to join ISIS and refused them entry back into the Country. The only problem with this then would be the safety of the children they have took with them.

I dont really know what the answer is but I dont know whether this is it! What do other people think?



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posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:01 PM
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No its not the right thing to do..........We should have shot the bitch for treason!



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:03 PM
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You need to speak your mind more lola reply to: crazyewok


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posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: anxiouswens

She brought it on herself, besides who brings a baby to a war zone ? Are you F'ing insane ?

Seriously someone give me a justifiable reason to bring a damn baby and have it pose with a gun! Arghhh!!!
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posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: anxiouswens She broke the law and presumably had a fair trial, so until or unless she wins any appeal then tough luck I say, she should be treated as any other criminal.

Her child shouldn't influence any sentence either, the only person to blame is that sorry excuse for a mother. Traitor bitch.


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posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:11 PM
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Yes it's the right thing to do.

Also remove her child/ren from her custody and begin de radicalisation process.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: anxiouswens

Punishment is meant to instill fear, of further punishment.

I bet she thinks twice before acting like and supporting animalistic retards in the future.

Let her go full retard, then she can stay in there for life.

She should be anyway in my oppinion.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok
No its not the right thing to do..........We should have shot the bitch for treason!


Or that, sounds like a much cheaper alternative to my initial thoughts



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:17 PM
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Of course its the right thing to do.

And when she completes her full sentence she should be stripped of her nationality and repatriated to whatever #hole is most appropriate at the time of her release.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:24 PM
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She will probably be put on a de-radicalisation programme in prison, reverse brain washing if you like.

Six years in prison is extreme in itself, but I guess the Government has to start making examples of these would be Jihadists and Jihadi Brides, in order to put people off from travelling to Syria and the likes.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:28 PM
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Okay...Orphaning a child by killing his mother is not the message we want to send to young impressionable folk. That's the us vs. them attitude we need to avoid.

Yes rules is rules and she should have face the music- but Don't play with fire when you have the match. We are trying to stop this nonsense not exacerbate it.
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posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:31 PM
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Thats my point really. Im not saying she shouldnt be punished far from it but I dont know if a prison sentence is the best punishment. Does anyone really want these people in prison with this ideology to be let back out onto British streets at some point in the future? Does anybody really believe its going to change her mindset because I dont. I think she and people like her will pose more of a threat once they come out and then thousands of pounds are being paid to keep them there.

I am sure I recall somewhere in the back of my mind the government saying a couple of years ago that these people who chose to join ISIS wouldnt be let back into the country once they had left. Another promise not to be fulfilled! a reply to: Freeborn


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posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:34 PM
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originally posted by: Thecakeisalie
a reply to: crazyewok

Okay...Orphaning a child by killing his mother is not the message we want to send to young impressionable folk. That's the us vs. them attitude we need to avoid.

Don't play with fire when you have the match. We are trying to stop this nonsense not exacerbate it.

She should NEVER be allowed near that child again, she is NO mother. She is not fit to raise and look after a petri dish of Bactria.

Its doubtful the vile bitch and other Jihadis will be rehabilitated and made safe. At the very least they should be locked up in a separate prison on some remote scotish island for life, and not the 14 years “life” but life life.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:34 PM
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I'll do my best to hold back my tears.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:35 PM
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originally posted by: Thecakeisalie
a reply to: crazyewok

Okay...Orphaning a child by killing his mother is not the message we want to send to young impressionable folk. That's the us vs. them attitude we need to avoid.

Yes rules is rules and she should have face the music- but Don't play with fire when you have the match. We are trying to stop this nonsense not exacerbate it.


Then stop bringing them in, problem solved.

How often do western born children turn radical if their parents get the death penalty?

I bet the number could be counted on one hand.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:36 PM
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originally posted by: anxiouswens
Thats my point really. Im not saying she shouldnt be punished far from it but I dont know if a prison sentence is the best punishment. Does anyone really want these people in prison with this ideology to be let back out onto British streets at some point in the future? Does anybody really believe its going to change her mindset because I dont. I think she and people like her will pose more of a threat once they come out and then thousands of pounds are being paid to keep them there.

I am sure I recall somewhere in the back of my mind the government saying a couple of years ago that these people who chose to join ISIS wouldnt be let back into the country once they had left. Another promise not to be fulfilled! a reply to: Freeborn



But she will be danger outside of Prison among the public.

Lock her up for life or execute her. There should be no other option for the Jihads. They are not fit or safe to be around civilised folk.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:38 PM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: anxiouswens
Thats my point really. Im not saying she shouldnt be punished far from it but I dont know if a prison sentence is the best punishment. Does anyone really want these people in prison with this ideology to be let back out onto British streets at some point in the future? Does anybody really believe its going to change her mindset because I dont. I think she and people like her will pose more of a threat once they come out and then thousands of pounds are being paid to keep them there.

I am sure I recall somewhere in the back of my mind the government saying a couple of years ago that these people who chose to join ISIS wouldnt be let back into the country once they had left. Another promise not to be fulfilled! a reply to: Freeborn



But she will be danger outside of Prison among the public.

Lock her up for life or execute her. There should be no other option for the Jihads. They are not fit or safe to be around civilised folk.


They are animals mascarading as humans.

Put them in a zoo or put them down.

These are the only options.

It is too bad the Aussie's are using Australia..... Great place to dump them all off together.

Just saying



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:39 PM
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I think these reply's bring forth the radical idea of NOT letting therm into any country to start with, if you are not sure who it is knocking on the door, you keep it shut don't you? Well I do anyway.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: Sargeras

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: anxiouswens
Thats my point really. Im not saying she shouldnt be punished far from it but I dont know if a prison sentence is the best punishment. Does anyone really want these people in prison with this ideology to be let back out onto British streets at some point in the future? Does anybody really believe its going to change her mindset because I dont. I think she and people like her will pose more of a threat once they come out and then thousands of pounds are being paid to keep them there.

I am sure I recall somewhere in the back of my mind the government saying a couple of years ago that these people who chose to join ISIS wouldnt be let back into the country once they had left. Another promise not to be fulfilled! a reply to: Freeborn



But she will be danger outside of Prison among the public.

Lock her up for life or execute her. There should be no other option for the Jihads. They are not fit or safe to be around civilised folk.


They are animals mascarading as humans.

Put them in a zoo or put them down.

These are the only options.

It is too bad the Aussie's are using Australia..... Great place to dump them all off together.

Just saying

Well they would make a good alternative to animal testing.

Always hated using poor lab rats….would have no qualms though testing on these monsters.

Failing that the moons empty….send them there.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:48 PM
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She is a traitor, exposed her child to danger etc so the child will get taken away from her no matter what. Firing squad is what she deserves, or a long swing on a short rope.



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