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Thousands march for Bernie Sanders 2 weekends in a row-- yet no media coverage

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posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 07:37 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Seriously. If I knew I could pay an extra bit in taxes, and not see:

● Retired folks standing proud, but with nearly nothing in their shopping carts in the line at the grocery store any more.

● The haunted, desperate looks of people waiting in line at the pharmacy.

● The mentally ill or veterans living homeless on the streets.

● Youths of all colors and backgrounds without jobs and hope for their futures turning to the only things they think will offer them something... anything: drugs, gangs, or radical extremism of any kind.

● Kids with that lean hungry look that means they are going hungry.

You know... all those things most of us try to ignore. We turn away. We feel thankful that we are not there.

But no one should be there.

Not Free Stuff. Not free. We will pay for it.

I'm okay with that.

But it won't be just me. Or just you. It will be the ones in $5000 dollar suits, too. The ones in the gated, security guarded communities. Who think all the world is theirs to take and rape. Because they are the Chosen. Blessed. Righteous. But they aren't.

They will finally have to participate in supporting the society that supports them... instead of just taking as much as they can get away with.

(Here is the secret: They need us. We don't need them. Not really.)

They won't like us taking their free stuff.

We aren't going to take it all. Just put things back into a more healthy balance.

They don't realize it, but it will be better for them too.

They have drained the host nearly to death. Like blood-addicted ticks latched onto that one spot the host can't reach to dislodge them.

Bernie does not want to kill Capitalism. He wants to make it serve the whole.

It's reasonable. Balanced. Better for everyone, ultimately.

If that means I pay a bit more, but in return the misery level around us goes way down...

I'll pay my share. Happily.
edit on 31-1-2016 by Gumerk because: clarification




posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: Gumerk

Then do it. Go out and give people money, give people jobs, pay them a good wage, be as charitable as you wish, but forcing others to do so is robbery.



posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: daaskapital

originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: Gumerk

The media has more influence on a candidate's popularity than the public realize. Hillary has been their candidate from the start.



Exactly. It doesn't help that some media companies are owned by parent corporations which have donated to a particular candidate. CNN is owned by Time Warner, which has donated approximately $501,831 to Hillary's campaign.

Such moves should be illegal, in my opinion.


It's our fault. You see, in theory we have a democracy but we're not using it. Our voter turnout rate is pathetic. Politicians, nominees, nor elected officials have to answer to us and it's our fault -- they answer to big money corporations who have bought our political process, with our mute permission.

There's this guy running for president -- Bernie Sanders -- he's been saying the same thing for 30 years and he's the only nominee vowing to overturn citizens united -- the supreme court decision that gave big money corporations and lobbyist the green light to rape our political process.

If Bernie gets elected as POTUS and citizens united gets overturned America gets an instant upgrade. Every elected official after him will no longer have big money corrupting our democracy.



posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Every government imposes taxes. Even the most Libertarian government you can think of imposes taxes. Our Constitution DEFINITELY allows the government to impose taxes. Do you have a problem with Democratic Socialism because you view taxes as stealing? You should really just have a problem with government in total then. The only government that can survive without taxes is no-government aka anarchy.

The wealth and well-being of the individual is reliant on the social collective. Without one, you cannot have the other. All Democratic Socialism does is take the collective wealth of the people, in the form of minimal taxation, and provides services that benefit the common good. The Founders knew this and allowed for that taxation to take place. Our current problem is what we spend that tax money on.



posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: Gumerk

Every government imposes taxes for good reason, but unfortunately, sometimes for bad ones as well.

Yes, I have a problem with democratic socialism. It doesn't work. It's a pipe dream.



posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 08:08 PM
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a reply to: Gumerk

I am glad I am not in a mainstream political party...especially this year. I would hate to be a Democrat and have to choose between a Socialist and a Criminal.



posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 08:10 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Democratic Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability. With this, there is also redistribution and welfare for citizens in the event of sickness, poverty, and old age. What thief gives you the opportunity to decide where your money is spent or even how much? The US government still has to listen to the will of We The People. We choose what tax system and how much if any we should have when we vote.

If taxation truly was stealing, there would be another political party emerge to represent We The People in a heartbeat and it would win by a landslide victory! Listen, we all have a right as citizens to these benefits but we obviously all have a collective responsibility to pay our fair share of taxes for these services if able. We all have a right and what I think is a responsibility to vote, but we also have a responsibility to accept the outcome no matter if our chosen representative wins or not. Do we not have a moral responsibility to the elderly, children, sick, or disabled? I believe we do.

What's wrong with We The People collectively exercising that responsibility through our elected officials and government? Especially, when we can all improve our quality of life and environment through this portal as a collective whole.

When we are successful, did we not build upon the work of previous generations? Did we not receive some assistance from other members of society? What about energy, education, health, and public roads? Did those benefits not help us to become successful and provide us the environment we needed to take full advantage of and reach our potential?

Is it not then fair to pay into the environment and support it? I realize our current system is not fully working as intended and that is why I want Bernie Sanders to become the next POTUS.



posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 08:30 PM
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a reply to: Gumerk

Yes it sounds good, but it doesn't work. That's the problem. Socialist economies have nearly failed worldwide.

"We the people" also includes the wealthy. You might as well just walk into their house and start pawning their things.

Yes we have a moral duty to help the poor, the elderly. So go and do that. But it sounds like you want someone else to.



posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

It's unregulated capitalism that has gotten us into the mess we are currently in. Trump will fix all that though!!



Socialism thru taxpayer paid subsidies for the corporations that make obscene profits, but the poor and elderly are SOL; the charities can take care of them.
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posted on Jan, 31 2016 @ 09:05 PM
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...the charities can take care of them.


I agree; or they could take care of themselves.

*gasp* I know, people responsible for themselves...scary.




posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:51 AM
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a reply to: Gumerk

Wow! talk about media blackout thanks for posting, however these marchers have gotta be careful and learn the lesson of what happen to George McGovern whose ranks were penetrated by agent provocateurs that caused riots and turned off much of the electorate giving Richard Nixon at big win for another two yrs.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 12:52 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gumerk

Yes it sounds good, but it doesn't work. That's the problem. Socialist economies have nearly failed worldwide.

"We the people" also includes the wealthy. You might as well just walk into their house and start pawning their things.

Yes we have a moral duty to help the poor, the elderly. So go and do that. But it sounds like you want someone else to.

Like in Denmark??



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 09:12 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Yes, I have a problem with democratic socialism. It doesn't work. It's a pipe dream.


It's only a pipe dream because people that don't believe in it fight tooth and nails against it just to make SURE that it doesn't work as if it's success would attain the very ego of the people against it.

Socialism is the future, there is no denying it. This is 2016 not 1850.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 09:14 AM
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Media coverage?

WE ARE THE MEDIA!


Feel the berning of our faith in the future!



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 09:54 AM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
I don't support Sanders (he's a career politician) but I'd have to say I agree with his policies more than any other person running right now. Though I like his policies, I think these people are counting their eggs before they hatch. If Sanders gets into office he won't do anything I'm afraid because his policies are against the establishment and the establishment will probably kill him before they let him destroy what they've worked so hard for for so long.


Well if that's the case, we may as well just surrender to the establishment right now and be done with it.

Getting our government back from establishment special interest is not an insurmountable goal.

However, it is going to take a political revolution of sorts, where we see the creation of a political movement or party that refuses to take special interest money for political favors.

What we're witnessing with this Bernie Sanders candidacy and the anti-establishment movement that is building across America as a result of it, is the birth of just such a party.

The people are the real power in this country, they're pissed off and they're gathering in mass behind Bernie Sanders to stand up and stamp out, the institutional corruption that has infected our government.

A successful modern day revolution in America will be accomplished by amassing our people, not our guns and whether you realize it or not, it's happening.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 10:04 AM
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a reply to: Gumerk

I was totally unaware that these marches were taking place, but it doesn't surprise me one bit that MSM would fail to show Bernie's growing support and/or movement.

If he wins tonight, they won't have much choice but to cover him and it will signify the first defeat over the will of the "establishment."

Go Bernie!



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 10:11 AM
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This is what democracy looks like?

Only if you turn up at the ballot box en mass That is what democracy looks like



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope the trickle down doesn't work either.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: woodwardjnr
a reply to: LesMisanthrope the trickle down doesn't work either.


I' have always hated that term it sound like when it was coined the 1% was laughting their asses off knowing well it was a double entendre.



posted on Feb, 1 2016 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: theMediator
Media coverage?

WE ARE THE MEDIA!


Feel the berning of our faith in the future!


The Right Wing are so proud of the crowds that Trump gets, but they have no idea of the underground populist movement spreading the progressive message.



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