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originally posted by: tonycodes
So they wait 3 years to release the pics. If nothing crazy is on the moon, there's no reason to wait that long, even if it's China. They need 3 years to actually proofread the photos.
We've been through this, you're wrong, and no matter how many times you repeat it you are still wrong. There are many photographs of the sun in cislunar space, you just refuse to accept them and move the goalposts
They will eventually have a telescope on the lunar far side, which will prove you completely wrong when they post photos of it in bright sunlight.
I never quite understood your argument about a human eye not being able to detect sunlight or starlight from space.
If I were in space somewhere between Earth and Mars, and photons of sunlight were reaching my eye at about 400 to 700 nm wavelengths on the EM spectrum, why wouldn't my eye detect those photons, while if I were on Earth my eyes would detect EM wavelengths of 400 to 700 nm reaching it?
What's different about that 400 to 700 nm EM radiation in space that makes it unable to be detected by the receptors in a human eye?
If not sunlight, then what about a light bulb? Would light from a flashlight be visible if I shined it in my eyes in space? If not, then why not?
originally posted by: GaryN
And for OBM, the full moon is not visible from outside of the atmosphere at visible wavelengths and there is no proof that it is, your attempts to find me a photo of ANYTHING other than the Earth from cislunar space have failed completely because there is nothing to see.
That is why there has never been an amateur telescope in space, the optics of an off-the-shelf telescope, as with our eyes, can not focus the wavefront.
Vintage Micro: The Amateur Space Telescope
originally posted by: GaryN
Of course a light bulb would be visible for the same distance that it is on Earth. If you use a parabolic reflector the light is visible for a much greater distance, as with the tracking lights they had on the Apollo missions. The light is of the type our eyes can focus, waves if you like, and not the spirals that are what travel through space until they interact with matter.
Well I think the number of astronauts, starting with Armstrong, who have said that it is totally black out there should ring some alarm bells, but the masses are too busy with other stuff to even think about it.
In an August 12, 1969, Apollo 11 post-flight press conference, astronaut Neil Armstrong states, "We were never able to see stars from the lunar surface or on the daylight side of the Moon by eye without looking through the optics." Stars were visible with the naked eye only when they were in the shadow of the Moon. All of the landings were in daylight.
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
At least quote him right.
You couldn't see them from the daylight side because of the reflectivity of the lunar surface.
"I feel this powerfully -- not as fear or loneliness -- but as awareness, anticipation, satisfaction, confidence, almost exultation.
I like the feeling. Outside my window I can see stars -- and that is all. Where I know the moon to be, there is simply a black void, the moon's presence is defined solely by the absence of stars."
originally posted by: combatmaster
NASA Got Sick of all that Conspiracy Thing and Released over 10,000 Photos from the Apollo Moon Mission
Dunno if its old news... but i hope this will put the critics to rest!
originally posted by: Box of Rain
Forget the parabolic mirror in the flashlight; what about just an incandescent light bulb? In fact, let's remove as many variables as possible to simplify the question...
originally posted by: awareness10
The Moon is located in the 4th Dimension. No stars multiple shadows facing different directions. Creepy..