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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Gothmog
I think everyone has forgotten the start of this mess. Two words " Eminent Domain".
I thought it was about the Hammonds going to jail for arson.
Did the Bundy's have to sell some of their land?
TextOf course not, but simply attacking another poster because his opinion is different than yours does not strike me as particularly helpful. It's not all about you.
Propaganda? Tyranny? Never would I have expected those two words to be applied to a situation that probably never should have happened in the first place, all over some cows, some grass and a whole lot of methane. Did it ever occur to you that this time maybe the BLM was actually correct? Of course not because you have to have the tyranny angle in all of the dealings between government and militias.
originally posted by: schuyler
Love it! Thanks, but I'm, uh, retired. Kind of. Except for my decoder ring.
And here for your viewing pleasure is an example of the sophisticated use of media done by the occupiers. Enjoy:
Besides which, the law of eminent domain requires that land be "confiscated" at the going rate, and that means market appraisal. Sorry, but I've been through this, and I have lots of problems with the very concept. But if you're going to build a freeway through the middle of "hour-glass shaped" Seattle (I-5), eminent domain applies, and it's not "pennies on the dollar"--it's market appraisal. Sucks, but let's not claim otherwise.
During the 1970's the Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS), in conjunction with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), took a different approach in an attempt to force the ranchers to sell. Ranchers were told that, "grazing within the area was detrimental to wildlife and must be reduced." Thirty-Two of Fifty-Three existing permits were consequently revoked and many ranchers were forced to leave.
The FWS wanted to acquire the ranch lands on the Silvies Plain to add to their already vast holdings. Refuge personnel intentionally diverted the water to bypass the vast meadowlands, directing the water into the rising Malheur Lakes. Within a few short years the surface area of the lakes doubled. Thirty-one ranches on the Silvies plains were flooded. Homes, corrals, barns and grazing land were washed a way and destroyed. The ranchers that once fought to keep the FWS from taking their land, now broke and destroyed, begged the FWS to acquire their now useless ranches. In 1989 the waters began to recede and now the once thriving privately owned Silvies plains are a proud part of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge claimed by the FWS.
The employee brags about how the veterans’ mine was appraised by the federal government at $40 million, and acquired for a paltry $2.5 million. “We did get it appraised and we did acquire it for $2.5 million which I stole the money from Washington to acquire it,” the employee in the video admits, adding that it’s sometimes hard to bamboozle property owners due to the agency’s reputation.
The BLM wants to take about 600 acres in what is widely known as "land grabs," under a bill passed by the government.
First the Assissination...then the Defamation.......The Propaganda Machine Spews .. (Burns Standoff)
originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: schuyler
You can't even show me where I attacked anyone!
You know why? Because you , like so many others that
populate humanity, view the truth as an attack. Let me
guess, gov.employee of some sort right?
Do you ever sway from your completely pathetic routined biased propaganda? Nope, not ever in the slightest. Not even in the interest of justice, liberty, freedom or humanitarianism. Your pro tyrannical comments are a mockery to this site.