originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: ipsedixit
There are two kinds of fascists!
Fascists and Anti-fascists! Puts in clearer light, doesn't it?
I know what you are getting at but I think you are being a little too loose with the term. It's not a substitute for totalitarian.
In the intensity of a political struggle there is a danger of opposing sides becoming the mirror image of one another in their methods, so I take your
point on that level at least.
Classic fascism seeks a government run by the State in combination with Corporations and Stakeholders. That form of government tends to avoid
democratic processes in making decisions. It wants to remove ordinary citizens with no stake in the society beside a personal stake from having
influence over important decisions. In that sort of State the collective interest is the dominant one.
In theory, there is a lot of common sense in that kind of set up, but it leads to a "corporations gone wild" atmosphere where many issues are decided
with reference only to whether they help to move product or not. A pacific foreign policy is lousy for defense contractors, so lets make war and screw
the poor slobs who actually have to do the dirty work (not to mention the victims of national aggression).
In the United States this kind of thing prolonged the Vietnam War and turned the Iraq War into a carnival of graft and procurement corruption. It is
militarizing the police forces, not because of real security threats but because it is a way to move defense industry product.
It's bad enough when corporations are cooperating among themselves to warp the national agenda to their needs, but the worst possible scenario is
when, as in Italy and Germany, a demagogic individual is able to dominate the whole process.
The problem with Trump is that he talks and walks like one of those ducks. The confusing thing is that he is such a knucklehead that nothing he says
can be relied on or even rationally understood a lot of the time. People are left trying to assess his body language to figure out what he is
That, to me, is too risky.
I go into Trump and his statements in more analytical detail in the thread The Etiquette of Being a Trump Supporter
edit on 30-1-2016 by ipsedixit because: (no reason given)
30-1-2016 by ipsedixit because: (no reason given)