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Trump and the Pole Shift in American Fascism

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posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:05 PM
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A few years ago we started to hear about the possibility of a "pole shift" in the earth's magnetic field. Documentary television programs were made about different aspects of such a "pole shift", where the Earth's magnetic field reverses polarity. Geologists showed that it had happened before. Geophysicists showed that magnetic anomalies were happening. The dynamics of such a shift were discussed. Effects, including that of cosmic radiation were explored.

Science put the issue on the table. Now people know about it. They know that more is at stake than that after a "pole shift", your compass will start to point South instead of North.

The "pole shift" analogy has a political application to the 2016 presidential campaign.

The rise of political demagogue, Donald Trump, in the United States has led quite a number of commentators to associate Trump with the emergence of Fascism in that country.

People who believe that the United States has been a fascist country since the end of the Eisenhower presidency and the assassination of John F. Kennedy are a little perplexed by the sudden focus on fascism.

There is no doubt that in Mussolini's classic definition of fascism as corporatism, the combination of state and corporate power, the United States has been and is a fascist country, but unlike the fascism of Italy or Germany of the 1930s and early 40s, the shots in American fascism have been called by the American financial and industrial oligarchy through their various policy making and intelligence organs.

In contrast to the current situation in the United States, in Italy and Germany it was not the corporate partner, but rather the political partner in the state/corporate combination that was dominant.

In the United States, up to this time, the corporate oligarchy has dominated whichever political party it has combined with and it is the corporate oligarchy that has dictated the direction of the country.

With the rise of Donald Trump we are seeing, for the first time in recent decades, magnetic anomalies in the field of American fascist politics, which could signal a major polar shift in American fascism, away from dominance by the corporate and financial oligarchy, that is, away from the distinctly American fascist model, toward the historical European model of fascism, featuring dominance of the corporate partner by a political demagogue like Hitler or Mussolini, or Trump.

Fascism dominated by a collection of corporate interests is bad enough, but when a pole shift occurs, bringing a demagogue to power, that is a terminal condition for a democracy.


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posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:10 PM
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His supporters also remind me of the supporters of the fascists dictators of the middle of last century.



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:10 PM
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I don't like trump, but come on man, Mussolini and trump have zero similarities.


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posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:13 PM
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Wow, are you overthinking this.

Trump is a guy who seems to love his Country and wants to return to former prosperity.

He's not Hitler...He's a pi$$ed off American with a very large bankroll.

At least you didn't call him the Anti-Christ...So, there's that.



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:17 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere
Wow, are you overthinking this.

Trump is a guy who seems to love his Country and wants to return to former prosperity.

He's not Hitler...He's a pi$$ed off American with a very large bankroll.

At least you didn't call him the Anti-Christ...So, there's that.


If you want to "Make America Great Again" you raise taxes, provide everyone with a livable wage and remove special interests from Politics.

Just like how it was in the good old days, I don't think the Trumpster wants to make anything of those things happen.



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:17 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere
Wow, are you overthinking this.

Trump is a guy who seems to love his Country and wants to return to former prosperity.

He's not Hitler...He's a pi$$ed off American with a very large bankroll.

At least you didn't call him the Anti-Christ...So, there's that.


Hitler loved his country too. He brought it back to being a proud and powerful nation and united it's people. He just got carried away and let it all go to his head that's all.



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:17 PM
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a reply to: muse7

Too many people getting pushed around at rallies.



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:18 PM
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The real and present threat is Hillary Clinton.

She takes the blue ribbon for corporate donations.




posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:18 PM
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a reply to: avgguy

ipsedixit is a Fascists-under-the-bed kind of guy. Socialists (real ones, not the social-democracy liberals you call socialists in America) think capitalism is Fascism. The corporatism associated with Fascism (though not, in fact, really a part of it) is nothing at all like the capitalist model followed in America.

America is heading in a Fascist direction, no question about it, but to claim that is has been Fascist since the Kennedy assassination is lunatic-fringe Marxism.



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:19 PM
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a reply to: muse7

Chances of that are slim and none.




posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:20 PM
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a reply to: muse7

Special interests? You mean like unions?



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:23 PM
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a reply to: Astyanax

You're not H.L. Hunt are you?

Some people don't see a Nazi until the swastika patterned hobnails start landing on their heads.



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:23 PM
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People talk about the separation of Church and State...The real problem is the LACK of separation of State and Big$$$. Trump *IS* Big$$$. Talk about putting the fox in charge of the hen house!

Who really thinks Trump would do anything for anyone but himself and - by extension - the 1% (0.001% more accurately).

When someone tells you who they are believe him: Trump is in it for Trump and Trump alone.



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:33 PM
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a reply to: ipsedixit

I really don't see much changing regardless who is president. Congress writes the laws.

I just don't want Hillary as president. She is evil and wrong.



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: ipsedixit

I don't think he's a fascist, I think he is just a greedy prick who only cares about himself and himself alone.



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:40 PM
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a reply to: ipsedixit

Making a comparison of Trump and Hitler is oh so easy. Easy peasy. A 12 year old could do it.
That said, anyone who takes that easy comparison and just glosses it over as a child's rambling is a complete fool.



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:40 PM
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a reply to: ipsedixit

Sophomoric. Possibly even sophomoronic. Surely you can do better than that?



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:41 PM
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a reply to: ipsedixit

I missed the part where Trump promised to dissolve the constitution and run the country through autonomous rule.

I did not miss however, that he said it is important to the citizens of this nation, that we begin to enforce laws for the benefit of the citizenry. Something our government SHOULD have been doing all along.

I did not hear him say anything about race, only that as Americans we need to do what it best for Americans to ensure a better future for our children and not worry about how others conceive of that. Since all Americans are of such varying races, there is no racial agenda, but an agenda which would benefit all citizens and no one else. Something that is the consideration of any nation on earth.

Illegal immigration is a detriment to all Citizens of the United States, no matter where there country of origin. How fair is it to the one who did everything necessary to come into this country legally, when he had to follow all the rules and another person does not have to. Laws which apply to one, need to apply to all equally.

When we arrest someone for theft, do we then say we will not put him in jail and excuse him of his crime because he has a family? No. We say he broke the law and for that he must face the punishment and that it was to him to consider the consequences of his actions prior to committing that crime. So why when someone commits a crime by coming into this country illegally do we then say the law should not matter? Their crime is no different than any other crime and is in fact against the laws of this nation. There is a way to come into this country legally, and people desiring entry, need to address the legal channels.

Saying that while at war with terrorist organizations such as ISIS and Al-Qaeda that we need to stop immigration of people who might possibly have affiliations with those groups until which time we can lean how best to vet those prospective immigrants, is saying this country needs during this time to be protected and we should do all we can to protect our citizens. This is the responsibility of government, and what we have government for. This is not a racist policy, as these groups have no racial ties but rather ideological ties.

To cry fascist, is to speak in ignorance.

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posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:43 PM
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Anything is better than this corporate oligarchy.



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:46 PM
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# democracy bring on the fascism.

America could use a good bolus of American fascists being fascist about America.

But, of course, Ms. Clinton Will be POTUS, so the point is moot.


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