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The anomalous events of 1 February 2015.

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posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 04:14 AM
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Apologies for the cryptic nature of this thread.

In the early morning of 1 February 2015 four CCTV cameras installed in a glass-enclosed patio captured footage of three anomalous objects. The cameras captured the approach of the pulsating objects to a point near the illuminated patio, in which the seven witnesses were relaxing. Then there was an outburst of light. This led to an abrupt heat build-up within the patio that endangered the lives of the witnesses.

Seasoned professionals, three of them pilots, the witnesses behaved commendably under fire. Although the events knocked out the smart phones they were wearing, two phones left in the house interior were unharmed. The witnesses used these to capture footage of some of the later events.

The patio CCTV cameras captured the first minutes of activity, including a sudden jump of the objects within 1/5 second from their position near the patio to a field about 700 yards away. After the objects finally left the area, about 51 minutes after the events started, the witnesses discovered extensive damage to the CCTV equipment and house electrical wiring.

One of the witnesses is a senior attorney. Together with the other witnesses he has published a paperback and eBook under the pseudonym of Lee Spencer from which I’ve gleaned the above information.

The masses of digital and other data captured afford the best of both worlds. The automated capture of data by the four CCTV cameras meets the requirements of systems such as those suggested by the JPL’s Scot Stride and in Mark Rodeghier and Philippe Ailleris’s UFODATA project. And the manual capture of additional data with smart phones and the eyewitness accounts, the latter already in the public domain in the above-mentioned book, add the crucial human element that advocates of human spaceflight have long stressed. Moreover there was hard physical evidence of the high-energy event, for example damage to the CCTV equipment and house electrical wiring. And last but not least the witnesses rule out space aliens. The accelerations of 1600g or so, calculated by one of the pilot witnesses for the 1/5 second jump, would have crushed any humanoids to pulp.

The attorney states ‘ We have carried out extensive research after the incident and we could find no existing photographic, video, and audio evidence that equals our experience to date anywhere in the world.’ He adds ‘… the visual and physical evidence we’ll release will certainly change the direction our federal government takes about UFOs.’

Brave words. But the witnesses’ actions and authorities’ responses since the events support the attorney’s claims. The witnesses decided that before releasing their data publicly they would first place it in the hands of the US authorities.

Officials, first from FAA and then from NTSB interviewed the witnesses at length and collected samples of materials that had been affected by the events.

After studying the data, materials and digital, for several months, in October 2015 the NTSB stated that they could not estimate when the witnesses would be able to release their data into the public domain without jeopardizing the official investigation. It was a matter of public safety, the investigators said.

Wow. Unless I’ve missed the point, that’s the first official admission by US authorities that anomalous objects have threatened public safety. That’s something Richard Haines and his NARCAP colleagues have been claiming for years.

The investigations have now been taken out of NTSB hands by secretive higher US authorities. Still showing patriotic willingness to give the authorities time to complete their investigations, the witnesses have now unanimously agreed ‘that unless we hear legit, sound and valid arguments from our government, we will release the complete evidence catalog online on October 1st 2016.’


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posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 04:17 AM
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Had the events of 1 February 2015 happened in France, government investigators would have openly brought in teams of technical experts from various universities and institutes. Careful analysis of the data may have led to published conclusions likely to lead to a paradigm shift in science.

But in the US, military secrecy means that if technical teams are now studying the 1 February 2015 data, their findings will likely forever remain Above Top Secret. Therefore to achieve that paradigm shift, accredited experts will need to step in openly with convincing provisional technical interpretations before ufologists and the UFO media circus ruin everything with silly talk about aliens.

Fortunately an institutional framework in the US for the provision of expert analysis of the 1 February 2015 data already exists – the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA). This institute operated a highly effective UFO Subcommittee in the late 1960s and 1970s and has the scientific credibility that MUFON and, to a lesser extent, even CUFOS lack.

Although the UFO Subcommittee appears to be dormant, individual AIAA members are still interested in anomalous objects. One prominent AIAA member, outed by Chris Lambright in his eBook X Descending, has even studied footage of anomalous objects and made use of those studies in his own aerospace designs.

Other AIAA members at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Centre, Maryland, are also known to be interested in anomalous objects.

Therefore, whether operating within the formal structure of a resuscitated (but perhaps renamed) UFO Subcommittee, or within new informal groups, AIAA members are well placed to collaborate with the expert witnesses and the US authorities in studying the 1 February 2015 events. An openly published AIAA technical study of the events could be the first step in triggering that paradigm shift in science. The key, IMHO, will be to follow SETI’s late Allen Tough in explicitly rejecting ufology as a set of flawed interpretations while acknowledging that anomalous objects present an important technical challenge.
(However high the quality of their studies, any group that calls itself the Coalition of Scientific Ufologists ties a millstone around its neck.)

Another large group of high-credibility experts likely to be interested in the events of 1 February 2015 are members of the Electromagnetics Academy, based in Cambridge, Massachusetts. At a meeting Moscow, held in August 2012, Professor Auguste Meessen presented three papers relating to possible MHD (magnetohydrodynamic) propulsion of anomalous objects. In one, Meessen showed spectacular evidence of rings (projected as ellipses on the film plane), apparently produced by the Faraday effect, and associated with an anomalous object. According to Meessen, the rings resulted from an intense but brief (perhaps of the order of 1/100 second) magnetic pulse that combined with an ionization pulse to accelerate the object – pushing against the mass of ionized air - by means of Lorentz forces.

The experts who crowded in to the August 2012 Moscow meeting to attend Meessen’s presentations are therefore also well placed to provide technical interpretations of the 1 February 2015 events.

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to: Lowneck



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 04:18 AM
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a So there are now hundreds of experts outside ufology who are intrigued by the technical problems posed by reports of anomalous objects. And in the work of Steven Dick, Scot Stride, Auguste Meessen and Massimo Teodorani, there are peer-reviewed technical papers, again outside ufology, for these experts to refer to as they work with the expert witnesses and possibly US officials and NARCAP in constructing interpretations of the 1 February 2015 events..

In framing working hypotheses for the events, experts will rule out aliens as the witnesses did. But, taking account of the Fermi paradox ‘Why aren’t they here?’, they can’t rule out intelligent ET surveillance bots. Steven Dick, in elaborating his Intelligence Principle, has explained precisely why we might expect such surveillance bots here. And the witnesses themselves felt they were under ‘some form of surveillance from the AOs [Airborne Objects] during the incident’. So one possibility is that the anomalous objects of 1 February 2015 were ET surveillance bots, attracted to the well-lit patio by their passive sensors. The outburst of energy that made the witnesses feel ‘like roast beef’ may have been an attempt to extract more information about the glass-enclosed patio and its contents, just as NASA’s Curiosity rover extracts information from Martian rocks by zapping them with laser beams.

The witnesses’ book contains several observations fruitful for expert teams to pursue. For example, one witness, a commercial pilot, described the largest object as an ‘aerospace engineer’s dream’. He described it as a dark grey domed disc about 65 feet in diameter with small orifices around the outer edge. He first speculated that the orifices, captured on the CCTV cameras, might function as ‘vortex killers’. But he couldn’t see how the orifices would function in that way on a discoid craft.

One possible alternative is that the orifices were connected with propulsion and produced ionization pulses of the kind that Auguste Meessen discussed at the Moscow meeting of the Electromagnetics Academy in 2012. The ionization pulses and the resulting plasma optical frequency line emissions could have been very brief, perhaps 1/100 second or less, too short a time to be seen by the witnesses or captured by the CCTV cameras.

If pulses of ionizing radiation such as x-rays were involved in or ancillary (to exotic physics) in the objects’ propulsion then the 1 February 2015 objects and others of that kind present a health risk. The seven witnesses may have been exposed to harmful levels of radiation and in view of the US authorities’ acknowledgement that the 1 February events presented a public safety hazard, the monitoring of the witnesses’ future health could be of public interest.

If magnetic pulses were involved in the acceleration, that might explain some of the effects that puzzled the electricians called in to repair the damage to the house wiring. An intense magnetic pulse coincident with the ‘jump’ may have led to current surges that heated copper wiring leaving surrounding woodwork undamaged.

So study of the unprecedented data gathered on 1 February 2015 by teams of technical experts outside ufology could lead to a scientific breakthrough with immense practical benefits for all on this planet. The patriotic witnesses have already given the US authorities a long enough monopoly on their data for any secret US Black Project teams to gain advantage over the US’s military rivals. Now is the time to stress the huge global benefits that could follow an open study of the 1 February 2015 material and publication of findings in the peer-reviewed science literature.

Apart from a paradigm shift in science and immense public safety and security benefits – consider the current hazard we may face of information-seeking ET bots zapping nuclear warheads and thereby triggering accidental nuclear war – an understanding of the objects’ energy source could play a crucial part in the mitigation of global warming.

Thank you for reading.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.xdeskpublishing.com...

piers.org...




to: Lowneck



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 04:21 AM
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so ATS does not get to see the alledged evidence ?



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 04:49 AM
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a reply to: ignorant_ape

The investigations have now been taken out of NTSB hands by secretive higher US authorities. Still showing patriotic willingness to give the authorities time to complete their investigations, the witnesses have now unanimously agreed ‘that unless we hear legit, sound and valid arguments from our government, we will release the complete evidence catalog online on October 1st 2016.’

No one gets it till ^ duh.

Interesting event! Looking forward to hearing more about this.



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 05:05 AM
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a reply to: Caver78

hey - appologies i actually missed that in ` teh wall o text `

but i did notice the juxtaposition of extra-ordinary details and utter memory holes .

which while making for " riveting reading " actually do nothing to educate the reader - or more crucially - allow any meaningfull investigation

a case in point :

we are told :

how many cctv cameras the patio has

its construction

the number of mobile phones present

but not the location of the alledged patio

go figure



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 07:31 AM
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So, this is some kind of LARPing, right?

.....



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 07:40 AM
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was the CCTV footage recorded
and where do I go to view it for myself?



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 10:53 AM
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Not a bad book promo



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: ignorant_ape

All reports like this are anecdotal until more evidence is presented. Nothing to get anyones undies in a twist. Actually at this point doesn't matter where it happened, or if it happened really...what'll be telling is if it can be googled, if more info is forthcoming etc...

It was a nice read, and well set up.
Anything more than would be odd, I mean do you REALLY think the best evidence of ET's or UFO's or alien bots is going to be on the internet???
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!! yeah, probably not.

As for "wall of text" um....it's just like reading a book. Again, get a grip.
This isn't Reddit, or twitter.
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posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: ignorant_ape




so ATS does not get to see the alledged evidence ?


Maybe it's better that way.


Something bigger is happening here...it's a conspiracy to keep the evidence from ATS.



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: Lowneck

BookMarking to Read later... I like what I've read So far.. Thanx for the share here! Syx...



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: Caver78

hi - please read my reply again

and heres another question i missed from that :

what remit did the NTSB have to ever be involved in this at any level

hint - feel free to cite NTSB involvment in ANY previous UFO case



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: Caver78




The investigations have now been taken out of NTSB hands by secretive higher US authorities.


And who would that be?

How are they a secret if you know they exist?



Still showing patriotic willingness to give the authorities time to complete their investigations, the witnesses have now unanimously agreed ‘that unless we hear legit, sound and valid arguments from our government, we will release the complete evidence catalog online on October 1st 2016.’


Why wait until then, as I guarantee the government isn't going to give them an answer they agree with.



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 12:41 PM
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a reply to: ignorant_ape

Before charging off into "why NTSB" I think both you & tsurfer200h need to go back & read the link provided by the op.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Sorry it's to pg4 that's where I left off reading to come back and reply. It would appear the OP you are "baby-debunking" most likely knows more than either of you guys. I'm inclined to see more from Lowneck since the link provided enough credibility for me to continue listening.

It's been awhile since ATS has had a decent thread on, so chill.



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 12:44 PM
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a reply to: Caver78

no - the allegation of NTSB is a stand alone claim

when has the NTSB ever had a remit for any UFO case ??



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 02:32 PM
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Number one this hasn't been identified as a "UFO" case
secondly, apparently since now.



Officials, first from FAA and then from NTSB interviewed the witnesses at length and collected samples of materials that had been affected by the events.

After studying the data, materials and digital, for several months, in October 2015 the NTSB stated that they could not estimate when the witnesses would be able to release their data into the public domain without jeopardizing the official investigation. It was a matter of public safety, the investigators said.


and lastly it isn't anymore_


The investigations have now been taken out of NTSB hands by secretive higher US authorities. Still showing patriotic willingness to give the authorities time to complete their investigations, the witnesses have now unanimously agreed ‘that unless we hear legit, sound and valid arguments from our government, we will release the complete evidence catalog online on October 1st 2016.’


Carping like a 3 yr old isn't going to get you answers any faster, in fact neither will "demanding" them like you are entitled. I already googled the NTSB's open investigations and since it is no longer an open case won't be listed. I'm sure there are more avenues to corroborate this, I'd suggest you avail yourself of them?

Or wait for the OP to add additional information?
Or be polite?
YMMV



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 02:56 PM
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a reply to: Caver78

SIGH - if it wasnt a UFO case - what was it ?

second - you seem to be swallowing the claims - hook line and sinker - so much for critical thinking

last - no one has addressed the peculiar trait of the claims to include massive suplergluous detail - yet ommmit the basic nessesities



posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: ignorant_ape

Not swallowing anything, just waiting for more information. It's been awhile since one of the "old-timers" here brought anything to our attention and they don't usually post fluff. Jumping the OP is premature at this point, don't know where this is leading and judging by the old ATS posting used as reference it's not about the book sales either.

So....waiting for the rest.
Dunno about anyone else but learned a lot from the old ATS thread and now have more leads to run down. Totally OT but the information that Archuletta Mesa was a disinfo story was worth the price of admission!! Sometimes it's worth it to just read while the oldsters of ATS are ratchet-jawing.

Us whippersnappers are very late to this party.
Cheers!

oh, the thread is about an anomalous object that fried some wiring in a house, complete with credible witnesses and several types of video evidence. Apparently an unknown type of propulsion system is being speculated on. Pretty riveting stuff!!
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posted on Jan, 29 2016 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: Caver78

ok - while you are waiting for this tail to unravel - want to buy a bridge - i give you special price - cos i like you




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