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Zika Brain Shrinking may be due to TDAP Vaccine

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posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 08:00 PM
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originally posted by: Pardon?

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: anonentity

anti-vaxxers keep on bleating :

vaccines contain "toxic " mercury "

now 3 simple questions :

does the brazillian TPAD vaccine REALLY contain the mercury preservative

what is the name of the mercury preservative previously used in vaccines

what ios the does of mercury contained in each vaccine shot ?

what is the level at which a which the mercury preservative is harmful to humans [ micrograms / kg body mass ]

is the mercury preservative bio-accumulative - yes or no ?

note - the " error " in the above post = intended irony


What really worries me is that we are ALL putting chlorine and sodium on our food! Chlorine use on the warfield is banned by the geneva convention...its POISON! and has no one see what happens when you put sodium in water! And yet we are told its safe to put them on our food.....lunacy.

/s, making a point about chemistry.


What no-one is addressing is the fact that most of the world's fish are swimming in dihydrogen monoxide saturated sodium and chloride. Not to mention also being contaminated with Magnesium, Sulphur, Potassium, Calcium, Bromine and significant amounts of Strontium.
STRONTIUM!!!!!


I dont know what Strontium is but if ever there was a chemical bad for you...its Strontium.



Joke




posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 08:19 PM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: Agartha
a reply to: anonentity


I know but we seem to be walking a track where the vaccines , are all preserved with a toxic mercury mix...


Posted here before but I think it's needed again:


MERCURY:



ALUMINIUM:






The fear uninformed people have over mercury and aluminium is very sad. All it takes it 10 mins research to find the truth. But that would take them away from ATS, youtube videoa and private blogs in order to get their information.

After all...you can't trust anyone. Except it seems any tom dick and Harry who tell you what you want to hear.

Mercury fear is justified in things like fish. Since it accumulates in them. But then it would really only be people like the japanese that eat fish daily that would have to worry. You can certainly play with mercury a bit with your hands and even swallow a bit and it will do you no harm. I spent many hours as a kid under 10 playing with large amounts of it at school thanks to a very cool science teacher who nurtured my interest in chemistry and would show me many cool things. I'm 40 now and feeling fine.

If you see something marked dimethyl mercury though. Leave the building.


Just like mercury accumulates in fish, it accumulates in humans.

Same with aluminum. And it crosses the BBB in developing fetuses.

Brazil has the third largest aluminum reserve ores in the world. It is possible that pregnant Brazilian women are exposed to more aluminum than, say, a woman in the U.S.

Perhaps what's a safe amount of aluminum in a vaccine for a woman in the U.S. is not so safe for a woman in Brazil.



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: anonentity

That's just anoying, at first I was kinda skeptical about Zika virus being linked with microcephaly, but these syndromes are really frightening, imagine if it's confirmed the association of it with Zika? Today I think that we have to at least, be aware about those problems. In the other hand, it's important to keep skeptical until solid facts emerge.

Thanks for the reply anonentity




posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 08:42 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: Agartha
a reply to: anonentity


I know but we seem to be walking a track where the vaccines , are all preserved with a toxic mercury mix...


Posted here before but I think it's needed again:


MERCURY:



ALUMINIUM:






The fear uninformed people have over mercury and aluminium is very sad. All it takes it 10 mins research to find the truth. But that would take them away from ATS, youtube videoa and private blogs in order to get their information.

After all...you can't trust anyone. Except it seems any tom dick and Harry who tell you what you want to hear.

Mercury fear is justified in things like fish. Since it accumulates in them. But then it would really only be people like the japanese that eat fish daily that would have to worry. You can certainly play with mercury a bit with your hands and even swallow a bit and it will do you no harm. I spent many hours as a kid under 10 playing with large amounts of it at school thanks to a very cool science teacher who nurtured my interest in chemistry and would show me many cool things. I'm 40 now and feeling fine.

If you see something marked dimethyl mercury though. Leave the building.


Just like mercury accumulates in fish, it accumulates in humans.

Same with aluminum. And it crosses the BBB in developing fetuses.

Brazil has the third largest aluminum reserve ores in the world. It is possible that pregnant Brazilian women are exposed to more aluminum than, say, a woman in the U.S.

Perhaps what's a safe amount of aluminum in a vaccine for a woman in the U.S. is not so safe for a woman in Brazil.


I know mercury accumulates in humans but a tiny amount of one mercury compound in one vaccine isn't going accumulate.

I don't know enough about aluminium to respond to your second point. Sorry buddy.



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 09:05 PM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: Pardon?

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: anonentity

anti-vaxxers keep on bleating :

vaccines contain "toxic " mercury "

now 3 simple questions :

does the brazillian TPAD vaccine REALLY contain the mercury preservative

what is the name of the mercury preservative previously used in vaccines

what ios the does of mercury contained in each vaccine shot ?

what is the level at which a which the mercury preservative is harmful to humans [ micrograms / kg body mass ]

is the mercury preservative bio-accumulative - yes or no ?

note - the " error " in the above post = intended irony


What really worries me is that we are ALL putting chlorine and sodium on our food! Chlorine use on the warfield is banned by the geneva convention...its POISON! and has no one see what happens when you put sodium in water! And yet we are told its safe to put them on our food.....lunacy.

/s, making a point about chemistry.


What no-one is addressing is the fact that most of the world's fish are swimming in dihydrogen monoxide saturated sodium and chloride. Not to mention also being contaminated with Magnesium, Sulphur, Potassium, Calcium, Bromine and significant amounts of Strontium.
STRONTIUM!!!!!


I dont know what Strontium is but if ever there was a chemical bad for you...its Strontium.



Joke



The atmospheric bomb test put heaps of Strontium into the atmosphere, ingest a bit of it by breathing or eating, and it will change the D.N.A around it. That's why people who don't smoke are getting lung cancer, in the same amounts as those that do, add in asbestos fibre which was treated casually a couple of decades ago. Plus all the crap food, stressed out lives etc. Sugar eating away at peoples immune systems and its looking like a health apocalypse, helped along by the likes of Monsanto.



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: anonentity

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: Pardon?

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: anonentity

anti-vaxxers keep on bleating :

vaccines contain "toxic " mercury "

now 3 simple questions :

does the brazillian TPAD vaccine REALLY contain the mercury preservative

what is the name of the mercury preservative previously used in vaccines

what ios the does of mercury contained in each vaccine shot ?

what is the level at which a which the mercury preservative is harmful to humans [ micrograms / kg body mass ]

is the mercury preservative bio-accumulative - yes or no ?

note - the " error " in the above post = intended irony


What really worries me is that we are ALL putting chlorine and sodium on our food! Chlorine use on the warfield is banned by the geneva convention...its POISON! and has no one see what happens when you put sodium in water! And yet we are told its safe to put them on our food.....lunacy.

/s, making a point about chemistry.


What no-one is addressing is the fact that most of the world's fish are swimming in dihydrogen monoxide saturated sodium and chloride. Not to mention also being contaminated with Magnesium, Sulphur, Potassium, Calcium, Bromine and significant amounts of Strontium.
STRONTIUM!!!!!


I dont know what Strontium is but if ever there was a chemical bad for you...its Strontium.



Joke



The atmospheric bomb test put heaps of Strontium into the atmosphere, ingest a bit of it by breathing or eating, and it will change the D.N.A around it. That's why people who don't smoke are getting lung cancer, in the same amounts as those that do, add in asbestos fibre which was treated casually a couple of decades ago. Plus all the crap food, stressed out lives etc. Sugar eating away at peoples immune systems and its looking like a health apocalypse, helped along by the likes of Monsanto.


Got anything to back what you are saying about strontium up? I do agree that today's eating habits are contributing to leading to bad things though. I have a very hard time believing that strontium from bomb tests 60 years ago are leading to lung cancer today though.

As far as I know strontium is essential in humans..obviously not any of its unstable isotopes.



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 09:22 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if the defects in the babies are the results due to the TDAP Vaccine and not the zika virus. The Zika virus has existed for years.

I have being reading some articles about the TDAP Vaccine. If anything the news media are using the Zika virus as a cover up. a Fear mongering tool.



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 11:06 PM
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a reply to: 3danimator2014


Nixon wanted proof that smoking was the main cause of lung cancer. The scientist found that mice breathing in ciggy smoke, didn't get it. The ones breathing in strontium laced gas did. Then they made a mistake, and put the strontium mice into the ciggy incubator, they didn't develop the same amount of lung cancer as the strontium only mice did. Apparently the mucous they coughed up, got the strontium particles out of their system. So when Nixon was presented with the findings, it was stated that cigarette smoking, helped save the mice from the inevitable. This was not what he wanted to hear so it got shelved. I'll try and get the paper.



posted on Feb, 21 2016 @ 11:09 PM
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originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: 3danimator2014


Nixon wanted proof that smoking was the main cause of lung cancer. The scientist found that mice breathing in ciggy smoke, didn't get it. The ones breathing in strontium laced gas did. Then they made a mistake, and put the strontium mice into the ciggy incubator, they didn't develop the same amount of lung cancer as the strontium only mice did. Apparently the mucous they coughed up, got the strontium particles out of their system. So when Nixon was presented with the findings, it was stated that cigarette smoking, helped save the mice from the inevitable. This was not what he wanted to hear so it got shelved. I'll try and get the paper.



Please do because as far as I know lung cancer from smokers is due do tabacco plants affinity for naturally occuring polonium 210. And since that's an alpha emitter you really don't want to get that in you.



posted on Feb, 22 2016 @ 12:51 AM
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There is actually additional supporting evidence for the TDAP linkage from PubMed.

This article
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

mentions microcephaly as one of many possible side effects of the vaccine. Hmm maybe that's why they are so desperate to blame the Zika virus.



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 03:51 AM
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originally posted by: SevenThunders
There is actually additional supporting evidence for the TDAP linkage from PubMed.

This article
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

mentions microcephaly as one of many possible side effects of the vaccine. Hmm maybe that's why they are so desperate to blame the Zika virus.


Where?
Where does it mention microcephaly as a possible side-effect?

If you search for microcephaly in the article it returns one result contained in the following paragraph:
"Among symptomatic cases, presumed causes are frequently grouped according to the timing of the suspected insult as occurring pre-, peri-, or postnatally. Prenatal factors are thought to account for 20 to 30 percent of cases. This category includes cerebral anomalies, chromosomal disorders, neurocutaneous syndromes such as tuberous sclerosis, inherited metabolic disorders, intrauterine infections, family history of seizures, and microcephaly (Bobele and Bodensteiner, 1990; Kurokawa et al., 1980; Ohtahara, 1984; Riikonen and Donner, 1979). Perinatal factors are thought to account for from 25 to 50 percent of infantile spasms cases. This category includes perinatal hypoxia, birth trauma, and metabolic disorders (Kurokawa et al., 1980; Pollack et al., 1979). Approximately 8 to 14 percent of infantile spasms are attributed to postnatal factors, including central nervous system (CNS) infections, trauma, immunizations, and intracranial hemorrhage (Bobele and Bodensteiner, 1990; Gibbs et al., 1954; Kurokawa et al., 1980; Lombroso, 1983a). Few of these factors have been subjected to systematic investigation, however, and the etiology of infantile spasms remains unknown for 30 to 50 percent of cases (Cowan and Hudson, in press)."

I've highlighted the word "microcephaly" for you.
It's mentioned as one of the prenatal risk factors for issues occurring with the TDaP NOT as a side-effect.

Disingenuous much?



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

Thank you for that article, Mothermayeye. Humans brain do shrink: they do with age, during pregnancy and even after running a marathon. But the decrease in size is usually minimal. There is no possible way that a normal developed brain would shrink to the level we see in Brazil (fetal brain). We have to wait for Dobyn and his team to publish the conclusions of their study, in a peer reviewed journal, before we can actually confirm what is going on. Sorry, but news sites usually take things out of context to sell.

But please, whatever you see post here so I can read.




a reply to: 3danimator2014
I think people fear what they cannot comprehend. Those who fear 'scary' ingredients in vaccines, they wouldn't if they actually learned some basic chemistry and pathophysiology.




posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 12:05 PM
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originally posted by: TaleDawn
I wouldn't be surprised if the defects in the babies are the results due to the TDAP Vaccine and not the zika virus. The Zika virus has existed for years.

I have being reading some articles about the TDAP Vaccine. If anything the news media are using the Zika virus as a cover up. a Fear mongering tool.


uhmm....viruses mutate, as do bacteria....I thought this was well-known, apparently not.



posted on Feb, 23 2016 @ 08:31 PM
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I guess that the news on those links below are self-explanatory:

news.health.com...

latino.foxnews.com...

www.theblaze.com...


Those news are tending to be true.That's a f******* nightmare.



posted on Mar, 4 2016 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: Pardon?

Nevertheless the article discusses a host of encephalopathy related symptoms to this vaccine. The same symptoms can be caused by microcephaly. There could still be a correlation. This wouldn't be the first time they tried to cover up vaccine damage.



posted on Mar, 5 2016 @ 05:47 AM
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originally posted by: SevenThunders
a reply to: Pardon?

Nevertheless the article discusses a host of encephalopathy related symptoms to this vaccine. The same symptoms can be caused by microcephaly. There could still be a correlation. This wouldn't be the first time they tried to cover up vaccine damage.


There's no "nevertheless" about it.
In that article the description of the ecephalopathies is completely separate from microcephaly.
And microcephaly is an extremely easy problem to see and diagnose so it would have been specifically mentioned.

So no, there couldn't be a correlation.

Given the fact that they have discovered issues due to the Zika virus in French Polynesia discounts your well thought out hypothesis too.
And then there's this...
www.sciencemag.org...



posted on Mar, 17 2016 @ 02:59 AM
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a reply to: Pardon?

The correlation that should be put into question is whether the cause is the zika virus. The Zika virus outbreak in Columbia does not seem to be causing microcephaly. Moreover there was an increase in microcephaly cases prior to the arrival of Zika in Brazil.

www.cbc.ca...

To me this is very suspicious. It would be convenient to blame the Zika virus, when in fact it may be a byproduct of a man-made hazard like a vaccine or pesticide.



posted on Mar, 17 2016 @ 04:10 AM
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originally posted by: SevenThunders
a reply to: Pardon?

The correlation that should be put into question is whether the cause is the zika virus. The Zika virus outbreak in Columbia does not seem to be causing microcephaly. Moreover there was an increase in microcephaly cases prior to the arrival of Zika in Brazil.

www.cbc.ca...

To me this is very suspicious. It would be convenient to blame the Zika virus, when in fact it may be a byproduct of a man-made hazard like a vaccine or pesticide.


Going back to your earlier post do you still maintain that microcephaly and encephalopathy are the same and cause the same symptoms?.

It's not "convenient" to blame the zika at all since it's being studied quite extensively by people who know what they're doing.
French Polynesia Zika study (notice that this isn't in Brazil)
www.nejm.org...
It's conspiratorial though for people who don't know very much to blame something else.

edit on 17/3/16 by Pardon? because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 15 2016 @ 09:53 PM
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originally posted by: Agartha
a reply to: SevenThunders

Jim Stone is wrong: the TDap vaccine is given at the end of the pregnancy (between 27 and 36 weeks of gestation).
At that point a fetus with microcephaly would have already developed the condition. Once the head is formed, it doesn't shrink!!!

TDap has been given for a long time to pregnant women, in many countries and yet I don't remember a big percentage of the population of the US or Europe in general having microcephaly.


The news reports I have seen just says dtap was given to "all pregnant women". I haven't been able to confirm what stage of gestation those particular women were injected. I feel it is more likely someone messed up and didn't follow safety guidelines in regards to pregnant women, than for a previously mild virus to mutate to such an extreme. All that would be needed would be one health authority to mess up and you've got a cluster of vaccine injuries to deal with. Or a cover story to sell which coincidentally will make alot of money.

Looking at Both Bill Gates and CDC Twitter pages they both seem to be on the "same page".



posted on Apr, 16 2016 @ 12:52 AM
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a reply to: riley

Furthermore I find this information concerning the "effectiveness" of TDap and it's safety rather disturbing. I don't understand why the vaccine apologists think it's a good idea for the vaccine industry to control the narrative on its safety. What happened to informed consent? Do you really think the pro vaccine propaganda is unbiased?


It is well known, for instance, that whole cell and acellular pertussis vaccine in DPT and DTaP/Tdap vaccines may cause brain inflammation and permanent brain damage in both children and adults.


articles.mercola.com...



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