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originally posted by: hellobruce
originally posted by: stevieray
it sounds like the FBI has released a drone video.....but no audio w
Why do you think a drone would have audio?
That doesn't look too good on the FBI.
Yes it does actually, it shows he was not "dragged from his car and executed", it shows he was shot when he went to reach to his waist.
originally posted by: Rocker2013
originally posted by: blood0fheroes
If that is truly the case, then frankly I have to say : You're doing it wrong.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
Loyalist to the US Constitution?
Dissent, grumbling, disobedience, and the wary sideways glare at government have ever been the hallmark of true American patriotism.
Being suspicious of those in power is a natural thing, that doesn't mean you get to usurp the democratic rights of the public to push your individual idealistic causes.
You see, you guys seem to forget that a real Patriot supports the rights of the people to elect a government to represent them. As is usually the case, the right wing seems to think that democracy is fine until something happens that they personally disagree with, then it's time to forget democracy and the Constitution, forget the rights of other citizens, they want to have their cake and eat it too.
It doesn't work like that.
By all means be suspicious of elected officials, watch them like a hawk, call them out on their dodgy dealings and self-enriching ways, but don't ever try to justify terrorism against fellow countrymen and women as though it's "patriotic" to attack their democracy.
There is widespread anger over the declining fortunes of the rural West. Nearly everyone in Burns says the town is dying, the good-paying jobs are gone, the schools are closing, the youth are leaving. People in Harney County and in many rural counties in the West want to use the timber, the range, the water, the mineral resources for economic development, and they blame the federal government and environmentalists for strangling their communities.
originally posted by: Leonidas
a reply to: Phage
The big picture is that Fincum, Bundys et.al. have a very specific agenda that is formed by - and conforms with - their Sovereign Citizen beliefs and their Fringe FLDS beliefs. Not a very secret agenda for anyone who does a least some research on who and what they are.
They want that land for their own use, not anybody else's.