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originally posted by: Gryphon66
By the by, a general observation ... have you noticed that inside of every revolutionary is a frustrated policeman trying to get out?
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: pteridine
Your claim is one story from one person who was in the Bundy group.
Its her claim, not mine. Sooner believe that than some press release from official statements made by the FBI department , none of which were there.
The term militia in the United States has been defined and modified by Congress several times throughout U.S. history. As a result, the meaning of "the militia" is complex and has transformed over time. It has historically been used to describe all able-bodied men who are not members of the Army or Navy (Uniformed Services). From the U.S. Constitution, Article II (The Executive branch), Sec. 2, Clause 1: "The President shall be the Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States when called into the actual service of the United States."
Today, the term militia is used to describe a number of groups within the United States. Primarily, these are:
The organized militia defined by the Militia Act of 1903, which repealed section two hundred thirty-two and sections 1625 - 1660 of title sixteen of the Revised Statutes, consists of State militia forces, notably the National Guard and the Naval Militia. The National Guard, however, is not to be confused with the National Guard of the United States, which is a federally recognized reserve military force, although the two are linked.
The reserve militia are part of the unorganized militia defined by the Militia Act of 1903 as consisting of every able-bodied man of at least 17 and under 45 years of age who is not a member of the National Guard or Naval Militia.
Former members of the armed forces are also considered part of the "unorganized militia" per Sec 313 Title 32 of the US Code.
Bundy even said that God inspired him to resist and “disarm” federal agents, arguing that failing to do so would result in civil war.
“I have no idea what God wants done, but he did inspire me to have the sheriffs across the United States take away these weapons, disarm these bureaucracies, and he also gave me a little inspiration on what would happen if they didn’t do that,” Bundy said while speaking on the radio program KUER later that year. “It was indicated that ‘this is our chance, America, to straighten this problem up. If we don’t solve this problem this way, we will face these same guns in a civil war.'”
Bundy’s family reportedly fasted and prayed for the “spirit of their forefathers to be with them” during the 2014 incident, and Bundy’s son, Ammon Bundy, articulated a similar vision to explain his involvement in the recent takeover in Oregon. In a video posted on January 1, Ammon — whose name is the same as a famous figure from the Book of Mormon — explained that it was God who called him to leave his home and campaign on behalf of the Hammond family in Oregon.
“I clearly understood that the Lord was not pleased with what was happening to the Hammonds,” Ammon said in between various references to prayer. He also reflected on God guiding him through the process: “It was exactly like it was happening at the Bundy ranch, when we were guided and directed as to what we were supposed to do…[Our plan is] wisdom in the Lord…And I ask you now to come participate in this wonderful thing in Harney County that the Lord is about to accomplish.”
originally posted by: Informer1958
If this is true, then this militia standoff was a False Flag.
What was the purpose for all this?
Well, now, truth to tell, sure prayer could be thought of as "talking to God" ... but these guys believe that GOD TALKS BACK!
The Bundy Family's Odd Mormon Connection Explained - ThinkProgress.org
originally posted by: tweetie
I came across a few photos of where the car went into the snow bank, you can see the tracks, which are mixed in with a whole bunch of other pictures related to this story. There's 79 photos right now and only a few are of where the shoot-out occurred. There's a lot of broken glass in the road and as well as some stains. I went through all 79 images. More may be added at some point.