a reply to: Utnapisjtim
There are 3-4 Mary, one of them the Mother of Jesus, and another one Mary Magdalene.
Whether the marriage feast in Cana Galilee was the marriage of Jesus himself? Why so many gospels who are not "forgeries" of later centuries, would
speak of the wife of Jesus and name her explicitly as Mary Magdalene?
I would not repeat the reasons given in previous posts and threads, because they go as far as why Constantine being pagan chief priest, stamped main
rules of the 3rd-4th century Church. Including the ruling on the books which one was right and which one was not. Ironically, all that missed the
wife, were stamped as proven, the rest - as heretic no matter they were more (and we still discover ewer ones that were not al burned). That fact
alone comes to tell us how unbiased the process of imperial approval was.
The book of Revelation was approved on another council some 100 years later in 5th century. It contains major characters that are a future event, not
past. Volumes have been written since then. Especially Augustine who rewrites the Millenium and thus makes it theoretically impossible an earthly
kingdom (democracy we would say) to achieve the bottom line of the Gospel - peace, food, shelter, care for the sick, love above all, fair share of the
money among the community. Subsequently, that were never goals of "christian rulers".
Augustine WAS WRONG. Let say it clearly and loudly. He cut and paste thru the timeline of the Revelation. It is not a dogma and never was. All
subsequent church fathers drew from Augustine, in both Western and Eastern traditions. They were all wrong. Millennium is present there, and if you
cut it off, you cut off the Revelation altogether.
The main character in the center of the book Revelation in chapter 12 is the Woman and the Child. It is a time to define the Manchild as not Jesus
Christ, because the story is put down on the scrolls some 100-200 years after Jesus Christ. Moreover, baby Jesus was not taken up to heaven, rather
grew up on Earth to 33. Dragon didn't appear afterwards, as Revelation tells us he would. There is an urgent need for the Churches to redefine what
was sidelined for centuries politics, and to declare there is Someone to appear (not necessarily to come) and that someone is preceding the Second
Coming. The Manchild, together with the 144,000 close friends who seem to have different mission than his. His birth doesn't happen even on the
surface of the planet earth, the birth happens in clouds, on orbit, in near space, logically on a spaceship. The modern churches must understand in
modern way the ancient texts and to be up to their duties. No one wants to take their authority in deciding spiritual matters. But no one wants to see
the scenario of Galileo repeated over and over again. Last time the Church did it wrong, it took several centuries to come to the starting point.
I see another pause in prophecy,
similar to the pause of Daniel's 69th to 70th week that prolongs already 2000 or so years. I see the pause
between the rapture of manchild and the casting down the dragon to earth. That pause is determined by the heaven-space war of archangel Michael vs the
dragon and their supportive angels, a multi galactic war that will take its time.
However short it might seem from earth (because the time
flows different here and in Andromeda) still it will be something longer than expected.
First of all, we will witness the selection of the 144,000 and the birth (or may in spiritual way, the anointing) of the manchild on spaceship, and
his sneak departure to "heaven" via hyperjump may be. We are fed of sci fi to imagine how that will happen technically, pretty simple. It is core
written in Revelation 12, if you carefully estimate where the woman is at the moment of the birth, between the sun, the moon and with stars around.
Not on the surface of earth or any other celestial body.
The dragon (draconians) won't attack the Earth at that time! The flee of the Woman in the desert won't happen at that time! The dragons will fight the
angelic forces of Archangel Michael for quite some time, that might be quite longer or shorter, depending on the earth's time flow that we don't know
how fast it flows compared to the rest of the universe, not compared to each next solar year/orbit. During that time, the Woman is not persecuted, she
is free on planet Earth (Churches may be enjoy popularity). Perhaps that is the promised era of peace in Fatima.
Let not forget that there is a Chastisement promised before that era of peace. If we open previous chapters of the Revelation, we see SEVERAL not one
celestial bodies impact the Earth, during the Trumps. Is it to happen imminent? I don't know and nobody knows.
The Churches should stand for what is reasonably right, stop the outdated paradigms, and start understanding in the cosmic era with more than one
team of ET. They cannot pretend they do not know anything, or that all are good ones, or all are evil ones. It is no more enough knowledge when we
have bigger knowledge than that on internet.
The reluctance of the Churches and especially RCC to speak on the subject means only one - they are already in contact with certain group of ET not
necessarily the best one, and they do not want to expose that to the masses. Regardless of their narrow minded position, the truth will prevail, by
the ET directly speaking to the masses. Call it alien invasion if you will so. Call it alien salvation, in case of major celestial impact coming our
way, or more probably in case of a world war coming fast.
Jesus had descendants, they are likely not born on Earth, but in the place where He dwelled for already 1980 years as resurrected Lord served by the
Hosts. Those descendants are honored as true sons and daughters of Lord Jesus and perhaps have very prestigious places among foreign civilizations who
ACCEPTED the Lord Jesus, and did not kill him as the earth did.
And those descendants are coming to tell us the truth of the life of Jesus Christ, that "no books could contain" said apostle John the beloved
disciple at the end of his gospel. How could we have been so stupid, blind and unaware, to understand what is written in plain text? Marriage, Angels,
Clouds, Ascension. New Earth spoken of Peter, along with New Heaven (new stars' configuration seen from the new earth). The time is now for making our
minds to accept the inevitable. No matter if it will be given a chance for 3 days, or 30 years.
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