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originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: TrueBrit
Were there not such a lot of islamics and imams supplied by Saudi I would have agreed, but you hit this exactly on the head when you remarked "a person of true faith" which is exactly how Muslims see themselves and accordingly place themselves above Christians, the rest of us and the law of our country is the problem.
These thugs have always been around on both sides, but the focus is now on Islamic supremacy and Sharia and the message is slanted to offend especially when some imam tells women in his host's country to expect rape if they dress and wear perfume as they are accustomed to. That is a deliberate red rag not only to the far right in those countries but everyone. Who can stomach that imam's waffle about family values tinctured with a good dose of regular rape also?
The majority of Brits may not go to church but for people from minorities they flock to the mosque - you only have to see the turnout from the one locally and the state some are in, walking straight out into the street, pulling straight-out in their cars to see some message has been bounced between their common sense and religious aspirations.
I think that because we see Christianity today having virtually no effect on our lives and we know the Bishops in the House of Lords can't influence our politics as they once did, we are free of religious influence and that goes for both the other desert religions.
Not the case at all!
Both those religions have hard rules we did away with and vicious punishments if you don't toe their religious lines. The Jewish community will side with the Islamics because they also have their religious courts again superior to our country's laws.
Sure Islam draws new thinking but not change in the way you are hoping for. The mentality for these two religions hasn't changed very much since they were first formed - didn't the Saudi Minister who told us they would continue to crucify on the street agitators not convince you of that, despite cameron's pathetic attempt to suggest human rights to them in the little job he arranged for them?
Who is your most vulnerable you would shift heaven and earth to protect? - mine is my wife, kids and especially my blond beautiful little Grandaughter who hasn't got an evil bone in her body. We have already had to tolerate immigrants grooming our kids - any more incidents or a pile of rapes will be the match simply because we have a huge abyss between our cultures and two of them are unlike to tolerate change.
Normally I would agree with you on most things, but the times when this country has been invaded has come from peoples with similar backgrounds and religion whom we had traded with over centuries. It wasn't a huge change when the Normals toddled in or the Saxons, we blended because we shared common values. I hope you are right but my gut says no and with more expected this is going down the pan at a gallop.
originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Scouse100
So if it was a group of Muslims 'patrolling' and preaching Sharia you would be equally dismissive if non-Muslims reacted in such an aggressive and bigoted manner or do you reserve your disdain solely for one side and absolve the other of all wrong doing?
Like I said, both groups are complete and utter dickheads and deserve equal contempt.
originally posted by: angeldoll
When there is a group of people who cause nationals to change their ways, such as Norwegian women dying their hair black to be less of a target, Swedish women only going out in groups, Germans being warned against wearing the clothing they are accustomed to, to appease the group and prevent harm to themselves, something is wrong.
Any idiot with two eyes can see this isn't right. I wonder if you males would feel any differently if it was YOU
being targeted. And all this time we thought you loved us. I guess the women will have to find their own ways to fight back. And they are. Necessity is the mother of invention.
originally posted by: Ploutonas
a reply to: Scouse100
You know what makes people of one country to form groups with such content (racial/religious hatred) ? Bad politics and multi-racial-religious agendas, with no actual ethics or essence of a nation. That means politicians trying to dismiss the countries they serve. Create a multi racial entity, in order to decrease the human rights and form a kind of slave nations, with cheap hands, more bucks for the companies. In addition those people who they bring in, are fanatical religious groups of people, with no common grounds in ethics, national religion, habits, dressing code, etc. And their religion is actually allowing them and teach them, to invade and take over.
originally posted by: Ploutonas
At the end, history proved us that this can only bring wars/civil wars, crimes, destruction of a country from within. And since those people love to make babies like rabbits, while the western habits is not more than 2-3 kids. They taking over the target country in a matter of 40-50 years.
originally posted by: Ploutonas
So, if I have to take sides between a racial fanatical british group of idiots, or a group of fanatical religious illegal (or illegally legalized) immigrants, I would pick the ones who have the right to raise their voice for their nation.
originally posted by: Ploutonas
And since you love your "democracy" allow me to teach you some. In ancient years these things was not allowed, the essence of a nation was very strong. Slaves was a very expensive thing and those who had slaves should be very responsible, because even slaves have their rights. Today slaves are the modern immigration thing, they are cheap and they move in by myriads. That will transform the target countries into their country and the locals will become their slaves, if not vanished.
originally posted by: Ploutonas
Hesiod philosopher said it once (globalists hate him) - when the time comes that slaves will be cheap and move in by myriads, is an indication of the things to follow (events - wars - return of the gods and nemesis). Apocalypse for you. You can find that - Hesiod 5 generations (iron generation) - Then this generation of humans will be destroyed.
So consider it not only as a warning for the EU and west, but as an indication for what follows.
Oh come on, you can't possibly equate the activities of Britain First with a group preaching Islam.
BF are not about preaching Christianity.
Britain First are the sort of bastards who would hijack the Poppy Appeal for a fast buck,.....
..... have DARED to take the name of this great nation in their own name as an organisation,......
..... and urinate all over it daily by espousing the worst of our national traits, and in so doing, resemble our greatest enemies, far more than they resemble the heroes they would like to think they are.
At best misguided all to hell, and at worst deliberately xenophobic, I would rather pour petrol on them than water,....
They are everything a young British person should aspire never to associate with.
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Scouse100
Britain First are the sort of bastards who would hijack the Poppy Appeal for a fast buck, have DARED to take the name of this great nation in their own name as an organisation, and urinate all over it daily by espousing the worst of our national traits, and in so doing, resemble our greatest enemies, far more than they resemble the heroes they would like to think they are.
At best misguided all to hell, and at worst deliberately xenophobic, I would rather pour petrol on them than water, if they suddenly found themselves on fire. They are everything a young British person should aspire never to associate with.
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Scouse100
Britain First are the sort of bastards who would hijack the Poppy Appeal for a fast buck, have DARED to take the name of this great nation in their own name as an organisation, and urinate all over it daily by espousing the worst of our national traits, and in so doing, resemble our greatest enemies, far more than they resemble the heroes they would like to think they are.
At best misguided all to hell, and at worst deliberately xenophobic, I would rather pour petrol on them than water, if they suddenly found themselves on fire. They are everything a young British person should aspire never to associate with.
I find them to be one and the same,....
.... but the reason that organisations like Britain First make me so angry, is that they allegedly do what they do in the name of my nation.
They warp the conversation,....
..... give our enemies excuses they do not need,....
....and if anything are helping those in power keep us squabbling in the muck.
They crap on everything that I hold dear.
They are not merely misguided, or indoctrinated, they are not victims in any sense of the word,.....
..... they had a choice in what they became, and a choice which they, unlike most of the converts to radical, fanatical religious groups, made of their own free will,
...... rather than having been indoctrinated by a faith twisted by hate preachers and insane clerics.
These individuals are temporal echoes of a far more potent enemy than the one most people concern themselves with... Bloody blackshirts. Fascist nationalists.
Not in my name, not in my century, not in my nation.
This must be a nation which crushes all supremacist organisations.
There must never be any loophole by which scum like Britain First, the EDL, the BNP, or any of the precursors of that group, or any of their old paramilitary arms,....
Furthermore, we should be making sure that everyone, from every faith, creed and colour on this nations soil, is of the sort who is prepared to get along, and everyone who isn't should be found and dealt with.